Electrolosis(sp?) Crap I don't know even know how to spell it! - Page 3

7point62fmj · #21 03-03-2010, 03:20 AM

TRISODIUM PHOSPHATE
Knowen as TSP. Is the best stuff to use. It is getting harder to find due to EPA restrictions. You can stil find it at Lowes.

Nug · #22 03-03-2010, 06:10 AM

I'm gonna have to try this. I need to clean a fuel tank. Maybe fill it with a TSP/water solution, and run an electrode into the sender hole, and connect to my welder (on low).

WRX2FFU · #23 03-03-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Txakura

Thank you WRX2FFU for posting this, this is the coolest shop trick. I got amazing results and this is a great tool to have in the inventory of old school tricks.

No problem. Parts look great!

It saves a tone of elbow grease, and is good for the environment.

The funny part is that you waste a tone of time just watching the crap in amazement.

I will almost never wire brush or sandblast some parts again.

Txakura · #24 03-03-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 7point62fmj

TRISODIUM PHOSPHATE
Knowen as TSP. Is the best stuff to use. It is getting harder to find due to EPA restrictions. You can stil find it at Lowes.

I'm not sure about that, the soda ash takes part in the chemical process as an electrolyte, TSP is a cleaner - and a good one, but it would have different chemical properties. TSP is readily available at any hardware store or paint supply but it's akaline.

The soda ash is acidic and is listed in those outside web links in this thread as being the preferred cleaner. My point being, other people have gone to some trouble to compile the web postings, if all they had to do was buy some TSP and dump it in, I think they would have mentioned it.

My own mad scientist contraption was sustaining 6 amps. Overnight it dropped to 2 amps. There are several reasons for that I'm sure, but the electrolyte's composition could have been changing too. The acidic mixture may have also been a catalyst in that it enabled the electron transfer but also was consumed in the process as well as the electrical potential of the parts changing over time. Interestingly, changing the fluid bath caused the 2 amp pot to resume at 6 amps. The alkaline bath may work, but not as well. As the original post was baking soda, but cooking off the soda to form a crude soda ash yielded even better results.

7point62fmj · #25 03-24-2010, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Txakura

I'm not sure about that, the soda ash takes part in the chemical process as an electrolyte, TSP is a cleaner - and a good one, but it would have different chemical properties. TSP is readily available at any hardware store or paint supply but it's akaline.

The soda ash is acidic and is listed in those outside web links in this thread as being the preferred cleaner. My point being, other people have gone to some trouble to compile the web postings, if all they had to do was buy some TSP and dump it in, I think they would have mentioned it.

My own mad scientist contraption was sustaining 6 amps. Overnight it dropped to 2 amps. There are several reasons for that I'm sure, but the electrolyte's composition could have been changing too. The acidic mixture may have also been a catalyst in that it enabled the electron transfer but also was consumed in the process as well as the electrical potential of the parts changing over time. Interestingly, changing the fluid bath caused the 2 amp pot to resume at 6 amps. The alkaline bath may work, but not as well. As the original post was baking soda, but cooking off the soda to form a crude soda ash yielded even better results.

There are a few states that have banned cleaners with phosphate in them I could only find one store out of 5 that had straight TSP. I am also not sure how you came to the idea that I was saying electricity was not needed to do it.

Here is some more good info too.

http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/vie...olysis#p397473

Here

Txakura · #26 03-27-2010, 01:17 AM

I never said that, anywhere. We're talking about an electrolyte, it was assumed that the TSP was in the same electrical set up in place of the soda ash/washing soda/baking soda solution.

So you're pointing out a cleaner, that is 1) hard to find in your area, and 2) potentially banned in others... as being useful for... who?

as opposed to a box of baking soda cooked at 300 F for an hour, available for pennies at ANY grocery store you went to five stores looking for something else?

when you get done with your parts, put the pics up, I already posted mine

7point62fmj · #27 03-29-2010, 05:11 PM

"if all they had to do was buy some TSP and dump it in, I think they would have mentioned it. "

I guess I misunderstood you when you typed this.

The link I posted talked more about using TSP if Txakura does not vouch for your interest level of using it.
It also talks about battery charger selection too.