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Posted 14 June 2017 - 01:29 AM

Second Part: The Problems and their Solutions

 

As you have seen in the previous Photos, the wiring is tiny and works pretty Hot, there are many metallic parts that easily gets loose, might get humid and / or corroded, and some parts might get burnt, etc...

 

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...causing electrical false contacts, which are the root of the electrical problems and fails that these Kias suffers, with age and usage, on their different accesories and parts.



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 01:34 AM

Solving a specific and common problem: The Blower

 
The Blower in the dashboard, for the Air Conditioner, draws more current from the electrical system than the average, and is one of things that fails the most on these Sephias; mainly because it keeps pretty Hot the wiring and the plugs during usage...
 

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...and as I described before, the materials on the Box and the plugs are not intended for such situation during prolongated periods of time; so firstly, the plug melts, causing intermitent fails of the Blower...
 

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...finally, the end of the Wire at the plug, gets burnt and stops conducting electricity as it should. So, the blower stops working, despite that the rest of the Air Conditioner system, continues working flawlessly, as it should.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 01:40 AM

I will explain this procedure to be easy to understand.

Inside the "Relay & Fuse Box" two parts controls the Power sent to the Blower:

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A Fuse and a Relay. The idea is that the Fuse provides Safety to the Circuit, and the Relay assures that the Blower will Not function with the engine OFF, so it only provides Power with the ignition; thus prevents battery drains.



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 01:46 AM

As I wrote before, the Blower on our "KiaStein" started to fail since a couple of months ago; sometimes it worked flawlessly, sometimes it didn't; always the rest of the A/C system worked as it should. Then one day, the Blower completely stopped working.

There was a soft smell like burnt plastic, on the car everytime we used the A/C, since around six months ago...

The A/C is a must here in the Caribbean; not due to the warm climate, but due to our huge downpours: It lets us drive safely, by keeping clear the windshield; so, I had to fix it.



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 01:47 AM

So, I searched among the Wires on the Relay & Fuse Box:

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 01:48 AM

And I found that the wire that goes as Power Output from the Relay to the Blower...

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...was 
Burnt; so I cut it from the Plug.



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 01:51 AM

I decided to place a new, stronger Relay for the Blower, outside the "Relay & Fuse Box", with stronger wiring; So, I obtained a used but good Relay plus its Socket and also a protective rubber hood, out from a newer Kia Spectra from the Junk Yard; this relay is Bosch style and is rated @ 30 Amps, enough for the Blower.
 


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 01:52 AM

Closer view of the Relay and its part number:

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 01:56 AM

So, to install a new Relay, I needed these Four wires:

Fused, permanent Power, for relay's input = pin # 30 (+)
The Blower's wire, for the relay's output = pin # 87 (+)
The Signal wire, that comes on with ignition, # 86 (+)
The Ground wire, to be connected at pin # 85 (-)



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 02:19 AM

The wire for the Blower, was the one found with its end Burnt at the Box:

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Now it goes to Relay's pin # 87



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 02:21 AM

Then, I removed one single-Wire Plug for high current draw, from the Junk Yard's Box which I dissected, as shown in previous posts; and added it to the "B+" Power line of our Kia's Box; so I can use a Big fuse on one of its empty spots, and have a fused source of permanent Power:


 

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Now it goes to Relay's pin # 30


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 02:23 AM

Then I searched among the wires on the Box, to find the ones that delivers ignition Power, in order to use one as ignition signal provider; found it among these:

 

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Now it goes to Relay's pin # 86



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 02:25 AM

Added the Black wire with ring terminal, for the Ground:

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Now it goes to Relay's pin # 85



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 02:26 AM

This is how I solder each wire...

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...insulating them properly.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 02:27 AM

This is the Final product:

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 02:29 AM

Found an empty hole on a metal tab, next to the brake's Booster...

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...and attached the Relay using a ¼" Screw with locking nut, on it.



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 02:32 AM

The new Relay almost hides itself behind the "Relay & Fuse Box" and...

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...it looks like a Factory one!!! thumbsup.gif

The great news is that he Blower works Flawlessly again, thanks to God.



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 02:36 AM

The Blower motor spins happy, like new!

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Looks similar to the one from my old Subaru, because they're somehow... Generic.

 


Now the blower works for five seconds more, after shutting off the car, like the Radiator's fan does; it is because I used the same ignition signal wire from it; the feeling of having five more seconds of A/C after shutting off the car, is weird, but nice to have, like a "Cool" Feature. :P

I hope this writeup will be Helpful for other people. If so, let me know by hitting the "Like" button.

I ask this as motivation to continue sharing my experiences, photos, etc... with you.

Greetings from the Caribbean, Honduras.



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 02:37 AM

Despite that the "KiaStein" already reached its Eighteen Birthday...

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... it is working Flawlessly, thanks to God.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 04:24 AM

Since we moved to a Rural area where our cars are driven in muddy roads, my wife's car, the "KiaStein" started sounding like an old bed, from the rear suspension... No matter how many times I washed it to remove mud and debris, it still sounded awful; I used a can of white lithium Grease on the rear stabilizer bar, rubbers, etc... and still sounded the same.
 
The salesgirl at one of the local spare parts' Shops, recommended me to use a special "
Chassis" oil (as she called it), the Abro's Graphite oil, whose weight is 140 ...
 

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... Long story short, I sprayed  of a quart of that oil, in the Undercarriage, after the last washing, and the "KiaStein" returned to be as silent as a new car.

 
Nice idea, girl!
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 04:33 AM

The only other thing I've done to this car, is its regular motor Oil & Filter changes.
 
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 01:13 AM

Update:

 

The Chassis oil works Awesome, no more Old bed noise
 
In another subject, this new motor oil that I switched to use,
(Chevron's DELO 400 with CK-4 / SN Quality class), somehow seems to help to reduce the fuel consumption, the "KiaStein" reached 280 miles with a full tank (11.7 gallons) when it used to barely reach the 240 miles before ... :D ...

 
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