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#426 mellow65

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 01:07 PM

nice header work mate!!!!cheers b



Thanks, it turned out pretty good I think. At least it will work good for me.



Oh and man I hate wiring. :D


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Posted 06 September 2011 - 05:12 PM

Hey bill who was your guy that you go to for clutches? I'm at the point of needing one and want to start figuring out my options.

Thanks

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 10:42 PM

you just use the Toyota disc and the rest is all subaru
the disc was used in mid 1980's pick up with a 22 r engine

if you want a clutch built , its Dan at compitition clutch

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 11:09 PM

you just use the Toyota disc and the rest is all subaru
the disc was used in mid 1980's pick up with a 22 r engine

if you want a clutch built , its Dan at compitition clutch


Yes bill I'm aware of what disc is needed, I mean come on I have been there since day one, sheesh. :rolleyes:

You just rant and rave about your clutch guy and I wanted to see where he fell on price.

Can he do puck discs too?

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 07:36 AM

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 01:21 PM

Clutch has been ordered :)

Dan said he was overwhelmed by your shop when he came to visit, I can only imagine the chaos that is your shop with all of your projects. :D

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 07:25 PM

he was drunk >;o)

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:45 PM

So where does the AX-15 out of jeeps fall into the mix with the bellhousing adapter? It's the same transmission as a r150, just a different input shaft on it, right?

Finding a transmission for a jeep cherokee in a junkyard, sorry, "automotive recycler", would be a lot easier than finding one out of a toyota.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:24 PM

if it really is the same as you say. which I dont know that for sure. lol
you would then just need a different clutch disc. get one for a jeep instead of a toyota as long as the disc diameter is the same. find a pilot bearing that fits the trans and the subaru. and then use the subaru pressure plate and all the other things said in this thread.

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 12:07 AM

if it really is the same as you say. which I dont know that for sure. lol
you would then just need a different clutch disc. get one for a jeep instead of a toyota as long as the disc diameter is the same. find a pilot bearing that fits the trans and the subaru. and then use the subaru pressure plate and all the other things said in this thread.


yeah or just find a toyota one. :grin:

but really because the 3.0 that were in front of the r150 was pretty much destine to die young there are plenty of them out there.

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 08:46 AM

I would be glad to help anyone on the AX 15 trans adapter but I dont see the advantage

Just go down and buy one and ship it to me, it may take a couple months

the input shaft is 2 inch longer then the R 150 and the throw out bearing collar is longer, but in the end all the engineers are doing is locating the shifter back for the Jeep aplication
Its the same R sereis trans built by Asian

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 10:22 PM

Hey bill what's up with your shifter relocater? Are the done or are you still messing around with them? Would I need to give you a "I need it moved this much" figure? Or how does it work?

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 07:47 PM

this is the remote shifter, the first thing I did was replace the shifer loop extension with an R 154 internal set up

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then I located and mounted the second peice from the R 154 shifter and located the shift rail

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then I started building the body of the remote shifter
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I could have done this a lot of different ways but it had to be very universal because it will fit a variaty of aplications and it had to work just as well as a 5 inch extension to a 2 foot extension

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I will probably spend just as much time building the tooling to machine this part

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 07:51 PM

I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to fit it to use a cable shifter. I started looking into using a Subaru transmission in a mid-engine/rear-drive application, and found a number of people that adapted cable-shifter setups without too much difficulty, which gives you just about infinite flexibility as long as you have cables long enough.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 08:03 PM

even if you wanted a cable set up, you would need this part, you need the remote shift rail to get your cables hooked to, so you still need the box on top of the trans

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 11:17 PM

I think the remote shifter will make all the difference for most of us. That's the biggest stumbling block left for a Subaru application.

Thanks for the pics Bill. I see myself ordering both the BH and the remote shifter systems from you when both are ready.

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 12:42 AM

even if you wanted a cable set up, you would need this part, you need the remote shift rail to get your cables hooked to, so you still need the box on top of the trans


fair enough.


do you know what the compatibility of that shifter extension will be? Off the top of my head, I'm thinking that looks a bit different than the shifter on the W56 that came out of my '86 4runner.....

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 07:35 AM

fair enough.


do you know what the compatibility of that shifter extension will be? Off the top of my head, I'm thinking that looks a bit different than the shifter on the W56 that came out of my '86 4runner.....


I dont quite understand what your asking but it is compatible with a shifter from the Mitsubishi Eclipse in either cable or solid shaft design
there is no restriction on length or positioning, the only real downside is the higth of the remote shifter box, I will be building it as low as I can but its still too tall for me, I didnt want to require too much sheet metal to be removed

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 08:00 PM

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!

Just add fuel for the first test run. :D

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 08:24 PM

NO WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:grin:

It looks like it was made for that engine bay

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 09:16 PM

I dont quite understand what your asking but it is compatible with a shifter from the Mitsubishi Eclipse in either cable or solid shaft design
there is no restriction on length or positioning, the only real downside is the higth of the remote shifter box, I will be building it as low as I can but its still too tall for me, I didnt want to require too much sheet metal to be removed


I'm curious about the transmission compatibility. It's been awhile since I had the shifter off my W56 transmission, but I didn't think it looks like this:
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mellow65....that looks awesome! Should be sweet.

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 10:13 PM

NO WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:grin:

It looks like it was made for that engine bay


YES WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!! :grin:

I have been saying it for awhile that this thing fits quite well in the engine bay. The key was the early 2.2 heads, they were small enough to clear the steering and not need to do major surgery on the frame rails.

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 10:48 PM

I'm curious about the transmission compatibility. It's been awhile since I had the shifter off my W56 transmission, but I didn't think it looks like this:
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mellow65....that looks awesome! Should be sweet.


you are used to seeing the shifter loop ( I call it) in the shifter housing, yes, that is a W series transmission with an R 154 shifter collar taking place of the original W series loop, its just a collection of Toyota parts that are crossed over

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 05:34 PM

It's alive!!!!!! ITS ALIVE!!!!!!!

2 battery's and 3 sets of jumper cables later and miss grumpy woke up. :D

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I did take some video so I'll patch that together with my couple failed attempts.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 08:26 AM

god help us now >;o)))))))))))))) ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez al we are gonna hear is about Mellows car....................
my car does this and my car does that




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