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#101 Crawlerdan

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 07:40 PM

GIGGITY:banana:

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 01:34 PM

so theses will work with the w58? if so ill be interested for sure

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 08:35 PM

so theses will work with the w58? if so ill be interested for sure


these will work with either the W series 55 through59 non turbo Toyota trans OR the pre 93 short shaft R 150 and R 151 Toyota trans, both using the original Sub flywheel, pressure plate, starter and clutch fork with a supplied throw out bearing

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we will think of somethin

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 08:45 PM

awesome i can not wait to see the final product then.
ive been rwd for about three years now and ill be making a lot more power over winter so im not to sure how much longer the ej tranny will hold up to the power and rear wheel drive

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 08:48 PM

while I putter with the sub bellhousing, I am also working out the details of the V 6G72 Mits auto trans coupler
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Just didt want you guys think I was loafing

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 04:58 PM

Why do the holes on the adapter above not look evenly spaced? IS that on purpose? I'm just curious. :)

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 05:02 PM

most flywheels/flexplates are designed to go on only one way- for balancing

the uneven spacing insures proper installation

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 06:14 PM

most flywheels/flexplates are designed to go on only one way- for balancing


I think for timing marks as well

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 05:40 AM

Why do the holes on the adapter above not look evenly spaced? IS that on purpose? I'm just curious. :)


that is why it took so much time to detail out the design, non of those bolts were spaced evenly , it doesnt make any sense because you have a guide pin to index the flywheel

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 07:22 PM

Has anyone compared the supra trans vs the wrx trans? Just want to know how close/far the shifter is to stock loc.

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 07:55 PM

Ask and you shall receive.

Its not close. Its part of the "somethings" that need to be figured out.

I'm working on something for it and basing it around a subaru shifter.

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 11:41 PM

I have a W56 sans tcase and RX trans sitting right next to each other out on the slab. I should line them up and take a similar picture....

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 11:47 PM

I have a W56 sans tcase and RX trans sitting right next to each other out on the slab. I should line them up and take a similar picture....


i'm thinking the shifter would be close to the same spot, but then you would have a transfer case hanging off the rump roast end.

but if you got it, do it.

there is another option for supra trannys. each succeeding generation the shifter got farther and farther back ending with this.

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but i price one out once, yeah right around a grand. i'll figure out some sort of shifter before dropping that kind of dough.

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Posted 26 November 2010 - 06:01 PM

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the details are worked out, the wall thickness is ok and the draft angle is worked out on both sides of the housing, this should shrink about 1% and then I will test machine out a raw casting and it should all be good

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Posted 26 November 2010 - 07:37 PM

looks like christmas might come early this year. :grin:

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Posted 26 November 2010 - 07:54 PM

looks like christmas might come early this year. :grin:


I will probably have the casting back in my hands within a week and a half, then tune that out and include the starter pocket, then the next run will be for delivery, so Cristmas is doable IF everything falls in place, how much snow did you guys get?

I will be building the remote shifter this next month

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Posted 26 November 2010 - 08:48 PM

I will probably have the casting back in my hands within a week and a half, then tune that out and include the starter pocket, then the next run will be for delivery, so Cristmas is doable IF everything falls in place, how much snow did you guys get?

I will be building the remote shifter this next month


good times there. :)

no real snow to be excited about. the big stuff missed portland and went north.

i have been working on a remote shifter also. its all based on the subaru shifter, its not like probably the most beautiful thing, but it should work. but if you have better ideas, im all for seeing what you got going in your head.

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 03:14 AM

good times there. :)

no real snow to be excited about. the big stuff missed portland and went north.

i have been working on a remote shifter also. its all based on the subaru shifter, its not like probably the most beautiful thing, but it should work. but if you have better ideas, im all for seeing what you got going in your head.



right now we are sitting on about 8 inches so far in spokane.cheers

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 11:50 AM

Found another possible use for this. Depending on how this next year goes with us in Rally-America.

Challenge will be finding a suitable push-style clutch kit.

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 12:11 PM

Found another possible use for this. Depending on how this next year goes with us in Rally-America.

Challenge will be finding a suitable push-style clutch kit.


What do you mean suitable push style clutch kit?

Are you you talking tohold more power?

I know someone running ungodly kind of power via a push sytle clutch.

Its all about where you go and how they make it.

His is a duel diaphragm with a six puck, its not an easy slow take off but it holds all he puts to it.

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 02:52 PM

Found another possible use for this. Depending on how this next year goes with us in Rally-America.

Challenge will be finding a suitable push-style clutch kit.


let me know on this and I will build a spacer plate so you can bolt the R 154 Supra turbo trans or the A 15 Jeep trans to this housing, plenty of strength for racing

ANY clutch build to suit the Subaru engine will work in this unit, just the spline in the disc needs to change, see Dan at compition clutch

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 05:35 PM

let me know on this and I will build a spacer plate so you can bolt the R 154 Supra turbo trans or the A 15 Jeep trans to this housing, plenty of strength for racing

ANY clutch build to suit the Subaru engine will work in this unit, just the spline in the disc needs to change, see Dan at compition clutch


I will keep that in mind. as that will probably be a good idea.


there were 2 different styles of pressure plate. push and pull. the pivot on that bellhousing will only work with push-style. All turbo transmissions use a pull. so off-the-shelf clutch kits are mostly the other kind. There are options, just not a ton.


We'll see. a lot of other things have to happen first...

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 06:04 PM

I will keep that in mind. as that will probably be a good idea.


there were 2 different styles of pressure plate. push and pull. the pivot on that bellhousing will only work with push-style. All turbo transmissions use a pull. so off-the-shelf clutch kits are mostly the other kind. There are options, just not a ton.


We'll see. a lot of other things have to happen first...


No really how much power you thinking you goiing to make that push style clutch isn't going to take?

Go over to legacy central and talk to red devil about his NA push style clutch in his twin charged legacy wagon.

You're thinking the pull style is a superior clutch pressure plate, its just a different style, and the NA push clutch can be made and for about the same money to hold damn near as much power as you think you can make.

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 07:09 PM

I will keep that in mind. as that will probably be a good idea.


there were 2 different styles of pressure plate. push and pull. the pivot on that bellhousing will only work with push-style. All turbo transmissions use a pull. so off-the-shelf clutch kits are mostly the other kind. There are options, just not a ton.


We'll see. a lot of other things have to happen first...


you are correct about turbo pull style aplications, but on the LS 1 Chevy, they changed back to push style after trying pull style, its a cool idea, but not practical, kinda like reverse cooling
the pull style was also engineered around the main bearing , in particular the thrust main bearing, if you are going to change from push style to pull style you should be sure your crankshaft main thrust bearing will support the movement

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 09:44 PM

"Go over to legacy central and talk to red devil about his NA push style clutch in his twin charged legacy wagon. "

that dude is nuts!for sure.....:eek:cheers




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