4byRoo Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 So I'm already bitten by the soobie bug...and my 89 GL auto PB 4WD is fun...but not nearly fast nuf What I'm wondering is how elaborate a swap it would be to swap in the turbo engine and a 5 speed. Or if there's something else that can drop in and make me a bit faster. Anything over 200 HP is fine...this isn't a quarter mile animal, but it'd be nice to hit 65 in less than ten minutes, and tool on some unsuspecting Civics Cheap is key here-I bought the car with 81000 miles 3 days ago for 300 bucks...so this isn't a 10K project Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeky Moose Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 just my .02 but if you want a turbo car, its easier to buy a turbo car than go through the headache of rewireing the hole thing.. and just a fyi, the stock turbo ea82T's only have around 135 hp.. to get over 200 there is alot of time, money, and blown head gaskets involved.. i'm going to be sticking my 3 speed auto PB trans in the dumpster here very shortly and swapping in the 5-speed pushbutton 4wd tranny.. should make the car a bit better on get up and go.. but SPFI is very limiting.. but thats why i have an RX for.. mmm turbo.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 EA82T has 111(85-86)-115(87 and up) HP .. You want over 200HP for cheap, get another car. you have 2 options for a 200+ HP old school soob.. 1 Build the crap out of the engine.. Cost.. $2-4K 2 Put in an EJ drivetrain Cost $2-4K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4byRoo Posted February 16, 2004 Author Share Posted February 16, 2004 SO not worth it. That's what I get for not reading before opening my big fat mouth. I'll suffer with the 90 HP wonder and the good gas mileage thank you very much Though I do want it to at least be a manual. How much is involved in that? Are there different options? Something about a push button 4wd or another option? What are the differences, which is easier, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 Mr.89 GL on the conversion. This board has a very good search function located on the main page near the bottom. It needs more than three letters in a request word so I tried "five speed conversion" for you. You might try some others. Here is the result Conversion to five speed search results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4byRoo Posted February 16, 2004 Author Share Posted February 16, 2004 Haha, as I'm a member of many boards for many cars...I knew I was gonna get flak for the search function Thanks man...I'll check that out. I do it every time too...just post away without searching. It's people like me that waste bandwidth. Look, I'm doing it now, just talking about wasting bandwidth... lol, I suck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 There is still a lot you can do to increase the power of your car. Search the threads. Just the little I've done has boosted my XT from ~95 to ~105. The most expensive part was the $80 it cost for the mech to weld up my muffler My air filter setup cost me roughly $50, and half of that was shipping and handling for the filter and heat shield off eBay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnW Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 Just so you guys know we made it so you can do 2 letter searches instead of the 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 a 5spd conversion will make a BIG difference, as it will actually letthe motor hit its power curves in all the gears since the car is already 4wd, all the 5spd swap will be a direct bolt on, fit stock, even the shifter console plate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WagonsOnly Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 Plugging asterisks (*) in on both sides of a too-short word also eliminates the length constraints (for other boards' search features this is very helpful, it's less useful here). Your best bet is probably the EJ drivetrain...much better reliability with the old-school looks (as well as the old-school limiting factors, like suspension/tires/interior...) Calebz, there are no Subarus that old in the US. The oldest registered with the 360 Club is a '58;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondasucks Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 and tool on some unsuspecting Civics You;d do that with just a 5 speed. Although my Turbowagon 0WNS when it comes to civics :-) The 5 speed swap is not all that hard... (Correct me if I leave anything out...) but here is what you need: Pedal assembly (all 3 pedals, bracket, etc...) Clutch cable Clutch return spring (Get off of a DL, those did not have the hill-holder) Flyhwheel, clutch, and pressure plate (Must be 4WD!) Flywheel bolts Transmission Here is where I am not quite sure, but on the EA81 cars, you have to change out the transmission crossmember and the crossmember brackets, but I don';t know on an EA82. You'll also need teh console piece that goes aroudn the shifter. You can swap in a dual range, for that you'll need the whole console as the PB and DR consoles are different. I swapped my 87 Turbowagon over from a PB 5 speed to a DR 5 speed out of an RX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 Originally posted by WagonsOnly Calebz, there are no Subarus that old in the US. The oldest registered with the 360 Club is a '58;) LOL.. took me a minute to find what you were talking about.. Fixed it:o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 5spd swap is not hard. Power mods are easy! Intake exhaust...then...Delta cams. The 677-260 grind should also suit the SPFI engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4byRoo Posted February 17, 2004 Author Share Posted February 17, 2004 Originally posted by WJM 5spd swap is not hard. Power mods are easy! Intake exhaust...then...Delta cams. The 677-260 grind should also suit the SPFI engine. Hrm...intake and exhaust...where can I go 'choppin for those? Ebay is useless. Cams...I dunno. This is my daily driver, I have enough toys (did I just say that?) The one thing this has to be is reliable...and I dunno if internals is on the list of reliability increasers Let me know where I can find some cheap bolt ons...homemade is always good too, as this was a cheap car to begin with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4byRoo Posted February 17, 2004 Author Share Posted February 17, 2004 PS-Anyone in the New England Area want to help me do a 5spd swap? Dinner and beer for your services... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 HOME MEADE I SAID!....dont let them tell you no different... unless you wnat to pay for something you could have done yourself for way cheaper... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 ?? HOME MEADE HOME :On or into the point at which something is directed: MEADE : Meade (md), George Gordon. 1815-1872. American Union general who commanded the costly victory at Gettysburg (1863). I'm lost? He wants you to direct this at some Civil War general?? The powers of proof reading never cease to amaze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 Seriously though.. I think the point has been made that there are few bolt ons for your car.. and none cheap.. you want exhaust? go to an exhaust shop and have them build it to your specs.. you want an intake? go to subspeed.com and pay too much for it, or make one yourself.. are you seeing a pattern here yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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