The Scooby Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 picked up a MPFI system, turbo heads, turbo, Y-pipe settup, cam, dizzy, and a few otehr things, pretty much everything i need to do the swap, i think just a few things here and there like the harness and ECM, and i should be good to go. tomarrow, or if i can tonight ill get pictures after i clean everything. Also the heads, a custom cam, and other stuff is going on another EA82 im getting for free and rebuilding. once im finished i will take the MPFI off my current engine, which i am putting it on for now, and put it on the second engine, with the turbo also. then drop it into the wagon. if anyone can help me out with helpful info on how to install this, boost HP very cheaply, etc please PM me or e-mail it to me. Thanks, Shean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scooby Posted February 21, 2004 Author Share Posted February 21, 2004 oh and by the way, can someone make a list of every sencor, and part im going to need to make the MPFI and turbo swap onto my 86 GL wagon with a Hitachi. Thanks a bunch, Shean PS can someone tell me where i can get the cheapest re-ring kit for a genII, i think, the EA82 with the box around it. also what pistons should i run i want to have alot mroe power then the stock junk, and i was looking at the stats, it says with 7.7:1 compression it had only 111hp, what if i boost that up and maybe be 8.5 to the stock 9.5:1, what numbers would i be looking at, and if i did do this what problems might i run into. also can someone send me the article on how to build the manual boost controller? Thanks, Shean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baccaruda Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 you'll need the engine crossmember for the turbo too, to clear the downpipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scooby Posted February 21, 2004 Author Share Posted February 21, 2004 well im not going to use the stock down pipe, i was thinking of using my stock edhaust that bolst to the heads and goes back then run a 3inch waste gate to a dump towards the ground, would i have any problems with this, how loud would it be? if its too loud then i toss a glass pack on it and then a turn down under the car. also im grabbin a BOV or pressure relife valve off a volvo this sunday when i go to a 20 acher bone yard. so if anyone needs parts, PM me and ill see what i can find. Shean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 Sorry to correct but I believe Andy ment to say cross over pipe, (and he is correct) From reading this and your other post on the topic. You may, your choice here, have some studying to do. I have included a couple posts you may want to read. It didn't appear in your writing that you realized you must put MPFI twin intake port heads on the engine ? (you allude to doing this to the engine in the car first, then the rebuilt freebie) The driverside head is a pretty tuff nut to crack while the engine is in the car. I guess for your 50 bucks you got the heads also? You mention the EA82 in a box, this is the designation for gen III heads BTW. Hope he included the camshafts (they are turbo specific) Please take a little time and read a bit, you will have a better understanding of why so many people have suggested what they have. - don't forget the fuel pump. Good luck, and Hope these help Carb to EA82T Rebuild EA82 & convert to EA82T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archemitis Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 wiring will be your biggest nite mare, nothing just plugs in, you gotta give power where it needs to go, and lengthen disty wires, all kinds of fun wiring, i never got mine to work, but im trying again soon, it seemed easy at first, till i couldnt get my computer to do anything. good luck, hope you find the right advice from soneone who completed the efi install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scooby Posted February 21, 2004 Author Share Posted February 21, 2004 skip, ill go and take pictures of everything i got from the guy. i do have the cam, heads, dizzy, valve covers, intake, throttle body, turbo down tube, cross over pipe, plug wires, and a few other things. the engine im getting is the same as the one in my 86 wagon. im going to put in the turbo cam, put on the turbo heads and all that, but keep the short block the way it is with 9.5:1 compression ratio. and i go real up on all that stuff you posted, thanks for that help. also, for the fuel pump, since my car is carbed, do i need to put a new one in the tank, or can i put it some where else? and i do have to put in a return line huh? archemitis, thanks for the heads up on the wiring, that doesnt bother me, ive put a newer chevy LS1 into a 67 chevy truck, and wired everything into the stock system, no problems with wiring. Thanks guys, Shean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 Yes you will have to change fuel pumps. They both mount in line not in the tank. The fuel line from the pump and the fuel filter and damper will need changed as your's is only for carb pressures not the FI fuel pressure. You car has a return line now, it may be reusable as it only sees the return pressure from the FPR. (see your post on marketplace for some other concerns) You will need the frame cross over under the engine as Andy says. It has a relief for the cross over pipe clearance molded into it. Maybe modify yours with a blue tipped hot wrench or a BFH?? Just one more thing to consider. If you opt for this custom down pipe you speak of, make sure you add a bung for the 02 sensor. You can do this, might not be as simple as it sounds, thats all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baccaruda Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 whoops. see what happens when i post at 125am saturday morning . yeah, i meant crossover pipe, thanks skip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scooby Posted February 21, 2004 Author Share Posted February 21, 2004 ok, big request, but can you guys get me some pictures of everything you are talking about, if its this complex, i might now be doing the swap. i will probally just find a EA82T engine and put that in, and go from there, rather then pay for a rebuild kit, rebuild the engine, buy the wiring harness and everything else. ill have to price some EA82T engines and find out what i can get. so if anyone then knows of a turbo ea82 in the pacific northwest that is for sale please PM or e-mail me the contact information. Thanks, Shean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 Even if you get a complete EA82T, you are still going to need to change the xmember, get the xover pipe, swap wiring harness and computer, as well as the fuel pump, fuel lines and a bunch of other small stuff I'm sure I am forgetting.. the engine itself is the easy part..One of your first priorities should be to get an FSM so you can have the wiring/vacuum/other stuff blowups you need for carb and Turbo so you can readily see whats different. If turbone still has my old 88 wagon, that should still have a good turbo xmember, harness and computer in it.. you might want to contact him.. he's relatively close. BTW, you won't get 9.5:1 CR using a carbed block.. I don't have my manuals in front of me, but the carb CR is 8.0:1 or 8.5:1.. can't remember which..Look for the thread miles fox had when he did the carb block swap on myoss' RX.. I posted the info about CR and piston part numbers there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scooby Posted February 22, 2004 Author Share Posted February 22, 2004 ok great, thanks on the info about that, and ill have to contact him about that. also thanks for pointing out the CR, i read that off the page on here for my EA82, oh wel. Thanks, Shean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 Sorry, the car is long gone. Didnt think to remove the crossmember:rolleyes: Oh well. Scooby, not meaning to diss you or anything, BUT, for someone who has just got his first Soob and doesnt have alot of knowledge about it and the workings of it. I would suggest you use the car as-is for a while. I know you havent been driving it much (if you have - bad boy), but once you get your license back, you can put some more miles on it. Then after a while, start looking for a EA82T GL10 Wagon. They are great cars, I have one. Theres other Turbo models out there also. I just think your putting alot of unnecessary work into something that you may have second thoughts about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scooby Posted February 23, 2004 Author Share Posted February 23, 2004 Turbone, i take no offence to what you said, you have a very good point. but i have drivne many subaru's, owned them before and worked on them ALOT since my grandpa had a 87 GL wagon, 4wd, 5sp, that we changed from hitachi to MPFI. also his 1980 brat. i know a decent amount, but not that much about the swaping part of it, that i am new two, i never paid attition to what parts we had, mainly because it was also like 5 years ago. also, no i havent been driving and i have just under 6 weeks until the 6months is up so i get my lisence back. Thanks, Shean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushbasher Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 having the 8.0 or 8.5:1 is a good thing for the turbo swap, wjm has to run 93 or 97 octane to keep it from pinging on his 9.5:1 but the turbo 8.5:1 rx has a bit more oomph but no det problems, or so I hear. If your gonna be on your own for the swap (well there is the board) your probably going to be at it for along time, and begging for info on the board alot. 2 heads is better than one, and I know that 2 people working on a problem pointing out mistakes without offense is a huge help. I'd be hesitant to set a deadline on a project like this if I were to do it alone. Sounds like youve got some database of knowledge in your grandfather. Thats a good start. One thing I have to stress is an fsm and a multimeter if you are going to deal with wiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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