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#1 rpholz

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 09:21 PM

so i have a 86 XT DL that i recently pulled the motor out of with the intentions of an ej22 swap.

now ej22s have been done so much. then i was thinking ej20g then i looked into my bank account and quickly realized THAT'S not going to happen:lol:

so what do you guys think of a smallblock v8 put in there? i can find them cheap all day long. throw in a sube rear end, 302, 350 motor or whatever mated with a turbo 350/400 or again whatever bolts to the motor. a simple 4bbl carb, some fancy exhaust and whalla, an awsome wtf? car!

now i reallize the need for beefer springs up front and lack of handling but who cares? my 89 gets good milage and is fun to drive, so i just want to do something off the wall with this car.

so whatcha guys think? doable or stupid idea?
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Posted 11 August 2010 - 09:40 PM

mazda 13b rotary would kick rump roast and improve handling due to reduced weight. plus you can turbo it. plus it revs all the way to eleven:headbang:


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Posted 11 August 2010 - 09:57 PM

hmmmm.......

eleven eh?

I remember the first time i rode a street bike i pegged the trottle, looked down and saw 13,000 rpms and i was like:eek::clap:

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 10:58 PM

There is more to a swap then just putting an egine in. If you think your bankaccount hurts now, try doing a swap that requires a lot of "engineering"

I dont know if the subaru chassis can handle the weight and torque of a v-8. Brakes will have to be upgraded too. The rear diff may not take it, and bolting it up to a subaru tranny i know that wont take it.

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 11:07 PM

there will definatly not be a subaru trans in there. if the rear end wont take it ill tub the rear and go with a ford 9"

i know there is more to it than dropping a motor and going. i was thinking subframe connectors, and as much bracing as possible. i can weld. should be fun. and realisticly i can find a motor and trans for cheaper than i can find one good subaru engine, and more than likely have it shipped to me.

again im just throwing around the idea.

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 11:17 PM

Okies.

I have seen windshields pop out and wheel wells fold in due to no support.

If it is an auto easy linkage. Steering may be an "interesting" modification.

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 11:34 PM

well the steering now has a manual rack, being a DL.

so i image turning will be a PITA.

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 11:52 PM

again, mazda stuff.........................ive seen a rx w/ that motor. I used to rock a festiva (dont laugh) there is a motor mount kit to bolt a 13b into a festiva. my point: if a festy can handle it a xt surely can. think of the sleeper aspect, kinda hard to hide a v8, not to mention the difficulties of making that swap doable. by all means do what you want!!!! anywho just my $.02

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 09:14 AM

V8 and rotary in an XT have both been done before. V8 guy i believe remarked how bad the weight and handling was. i don't think it was every driven much, if ever outside of playing around.

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 11:12 AM

V8 and rotary in an XT have both been done before.


dammit. so what else is there?

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 11:20 AM

dammit. so what else is there?

don't let that stop you, just because it's been done once or twice. get yours done right, make it an actual driver and post pic's. sounds like you have little rhyme or reason to it, so get your sawzall and welder fired up and get off the computer! :lol:

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 12:15 PM

there is a company here in tacoma called small car performance, the do fully electric vw beetles. pretty fast too.

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 06:54 PM

i just see so many EJ convertions and EA rebuilds. i just want to be like "F you ive got a V8!" lol. kinda like a novelty car i suppose.

who knows what ill do. i sure don't. all i know is i have a rust free 86 XT DL waiting for something.

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 07:51 PM

AHHH new thought. I used to work for a guy that specialized in old VW engines. he offered me a oversized, dual carb, crazy motor. (and still owes me a paint job) im not sure of the HP numbers you can acheive from one of those motors but i think it would be cool.

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 08:14 PM

I built a 1914cc type 1 VW for a sand rail. It was fun, but don't expect mind blowing speed. They are good for about 100hp. 1914 is the biggest type 1 you can build without stroking it. (stock 68mm crank, 94 mm pistons.) These motors can't take much compression. And if you do go this route, don't go crazy with carbs. 1.9l engine only needs so much gas. Sounds like a fun project.

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 08:35 PM

There are some very small V-8's around

http://www.roadcarvi...-enterprises-v8

Or better yet, a large V-6

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 08:42 PM

There are some very small V-8's around

http://www.roadcarvi...-enterprises-v8

Or better yet, a large V-6


now this is just beyond cool.

i thought about a motorcycle engine for a minute, but i just dont think it would have the torque to get the car moving. take a 1000cc inline 4 cocked sidewise with those 4 carbs ooohhh, it would look so cool.

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 08:50 PM

H1 V8 pricing
2.8 liter V8, approximately 400 hp. Engine is inclusive of hardware as described below.... $27,700:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::mad:

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 09:32 PM

man, i like this thread......................the 3.8 regal gnx v6 motor i had in a 76 celica outran a 90s 728 like it was sitting still(we started @ 90 mph)

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 09:36 PM

There is always a US Surplus tubine or jet engine

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 09:44 PM

i could do a modified 4.3 gm motor, it would be shorter and easier to work with.

turbine MIIIIGHT be overkill. lol

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 09:47 PM

ya, my 3.8 was cool but if i ever stop smoking subie crack long enough to get another celica, itll def have a 4.3

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 09:51 PM

did you have the 3.8 turbo motor. cause those are sweet.

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 09:57 PM

did you have the 3.8 turbo motor. cause those are sweet.


i suppose it prolly wasnt the "gnx" cuz it wasnt supercharged, had a electronic carb tho. WAY FAST. those 3.8s were designed for running 24hrs le mons (now good for 24 hrs lemons:lol:) they were designed to sustain high rpms

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 07:07 PM

indeed. the 3.8 is a good motor but in a FWD application they are a pain to change the plugs!


so still taking ideas. digging a 13b idea. but still not certain.




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