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quistions about 1990 subaru loyale EJ18 to EJ22 swap
Posted 29 March 2011 - 07:14 PM
So what are some things that i should know about the swap?
Computer wize, will the EJ22 work of the EJ18 computer or will i have to swap it out for the Legacy computer? Will the wiring thats in my 1990 fit right up with the Legacy computer for the swap?
Motor mount, will i need to buy a conversion kit from a 1990 Loyale to the EJ22, or will it bolt up easy where the EJ18 was? If so anyone know where i could buy one?
If there is anything else i should know feel free to let me know, anything helps.
Posted 29 March 2011 - 07:37 PM
Posted 01 April 2011 - 11:31 AM
yours being a Loyale it is not an easy swap to an EJ22 - it'll require the write up he mentioend above.
as far as a coolant leak - do you want to try to diagnose and repair that?. the most common problem is the intake manifold gaskets leaks as they have water passages in them. if that's the case, that's just a matter of pulling the intake manifold and replacing some gaskets. even something else might have a repair.
Posted 02 April 2011 - 05:30 PM
Posted 02 April 2011 - 08:51 PM
or CLEAN and fill the crack with some kind of sealant and then put piece of metal on top of it also coated with sealant...gotta be some way to stop a coolant leak.
the JB weld and similar stuff sucks. I consider it a last resort now. it's amazing sometimes but for anything cycling, vibrating, moving, hard to clean...it's hard to get it to set or hold up.
as for swap question im' not sure what you're asking. are you wanting to do the full on engine wiring, body wiring, ECu swap? that's a big job. for plug and play you'll need another EA82 1.8 liter. (an EJ18 1.8 liter is a completely different motor and won't work...without all the wiring mentioned above).
Posted 02 April 2011 - 08:53 PM
Loyales are carry overs from the 80's cars, and the engines and transmissions are EA series designs. In 89, subaru came out with the legacy, which has the EJ series engine and transmission, and there were a whole bunch of changes for the better. They kept selling the previous design loyale's until they replaced it with the impreza in 93. The loyales were obsolete at the time they were being sold, but were a low price alternative to the Legacy, so they filled that market niche until they could get the Impreza to market.
Posted 04 April 2011 - 01:00 PM
Posted 04 April 2011 - 03:26 PM
Does any one know where i could buy the wiring already moded for my loyale ready to put in? and how much? im not a big fan of wiring stuff up, but if i have to i will.
im not swapping out the tranny, i like my 5speed push button4x4, good on mpg. so i will need an addapter plate.
hey and thanks to every one whos been posting!
Posted 04 April 2011 - 07:13 PM
i'd keep your transmission too, i'm a fan of the old school "locked" 4WD models and they're very reliable.
yes - he's a member here and very well respected. if i were doing a swap that's exactly how i'd do it.
Posted 04 April 2011 - 08:43 PM
ill post a pic soon for you so you can see mine. i am very happy with it.
Posted 05 April 2011 - 12:22 PM
-do you end up running both ECUs? the loyale one and the ej22 one?
nice ride! how much did that cost you for the swap? nice pix too! thanks man!
Posted 06 April 2011 - 03:04 AM
All said and done with paying 700.00 for the car a year ago i have about 3,500 into it with all the custom wiring, wich i had a guy here in town do for me Adam at NWRS, the ea to ej adapter plate, XT6 clutch kit, oil pressure plate adapter, gauges, and the list goes on. Its not cheap to do the right way but when its done and everything works and its reliable, you cant put a price on that.
and thats why i love my ************in subaru............hell yeah
Posted 06 April 2011 - 01:36 PM
im cheap, so the junk yard is my best freind! pretty much the only reason why my subaru is still running.
once i start with the swap this summer, (or when my motor goes out) ill load some pix up and show off my ride
Posted 06 April 2011 - 01:49 PM
i figure i can get a motor from the junk yard for a 100$,
You figure wrong. A good, known running, even high mileage 2.2 will cost more like 300-500 at least.
Yard here charges me $100 for an ECU and Harness. Though they ussually have been cut and hacked, so you kinda have to find a car that just came in. Even then, you don't know if it all still works.
Do yourself a favor. Buy a beat up Legacy that at least runs and use all the parts from the same car.
You'll end up doing things 5 times over, the hard way trying to go the J-yard route.
Posted 06 April 2011 - 05:38 PM
i would get a car that runs like Gloyale said and use that as a donor so you know you have everything you need as far as wiring sensors, etc off the donor car.
i bought pretty much everything brand new so my ************s legit.
Posted 06 April 2011 - 10:13 PM
That is an awesome car! Weird i havent seen that car in Bellingham before. i have a lifted loyale im gonna do an ej swap in when i get the funds:rolleyes:
Posted 07 April 2011 - 03:06 PM
when you wire the ej22 harness in, does it get wired into here the only ea wiring goes into the ecu? so if i got a feemale addaptor to it i could just plug it in insted of cutting wires and dubbing in?
Posted 07 April 2011 - 05:25 PM
Posted 07 April 2011 - 05:36 PM
SO BASICALLY UR RUNNING DIFFRENT ENGINE CONTROL WIRING AND HAVING THE ECU RUN THE ENGINE. U WONT NEED UR OLD ECU!!!
I would advise doing some in depth research or asking a wiring specialist or subaru mechanic.
the xt6 clutch is the best you can do with an ea82 drive train, doesn't matter what size engine if your gona run ea 82 drive train the xt6 pressure plate has the highest clamping force for an ea82 drivetrain. and you can make an adapter plate and redrilled flywheel but if you mess up or ur holes on the flywheel and if you are off or if your adapter plate is any more or less than 1/2 thick or not perfectly flat ur project is gona probley ************ up! its a delicate and percise process. there is a right and wrong way to do it and trust me i put a few bucks into mine so unless ur willing to lose money do it the right way!!!
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