Whitehog Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 79 4wd - can new rear shocks and front shocks/struts be found with any ease or is this a modification thing now? I'm in AZ, checked BAP and many websites and stores to no avail. I hear I can get balljoints and tie rod ends, fingers crossed and dont mind paying a bit of shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosens Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 They're out there .... just have to hunt around. Ball joints are plentiful. Tie rod ends - fairly plentiful. Those rear shocks - less plentiful :-\ ... but you'll score soon. I've got a set that I bought from eBay about a decade ago that I'm hoping aren't bad from sitting for 20+ years. Please post any results on shocks. Thanks and good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitehog Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 Thanks, im searchin, hopin there would be an easy swap. got to be somethin new that would fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitehog Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 Good lookin out, sounds like one of the tougher parts to find. Wondering if some new similar shocks could be rigged in with some part sharing? Gotta be somethin to put in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBARU3 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I ran across some old info. I believe that these shocks may fit the rear of GEN 1 wagons, sedans, coupes and BRATs. Monroe Matics # 33097 ALSO fits: 81-87 Ford Granada 78-83 Ford Fairmont 79-86 Mercury Capri 81-81 Mercury Cougar 82-86 Mercury Marquis Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitehog Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 Thanks , gotta do some diggin and fittin, ill post results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O.C.D. Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) Rock auto has the cross pin Monroe 5914 for the gen 1 Brat and that is wrong. To add to this thread, the Monroe Matics # 33097 fits in the gen 1 Brat. I found some Monroe Matics # 33097 locally and thought I would try them out. 5914 is closest to stock: Compressed length - 12.75" Extended length - 17.5" Travel - 4.75" 33097 is longer but meets and exceeds the 5914 stats: Compressed length - 12.25" Extended length - 20.375" Travel - 8.125" Installed they are the same. The piston resides more in the middle of the tube though. I am not certain if this is a benefit or a hindrance but it reality that allows for more up-travel and down-travel as well. So will I hit a bumpstop on a hard bounce, probably. SO would any shock I guess. Would the wheel drop more if fully drooped, can't say yet. It could in theory if the torsion bar allows for it. As my Brat is parked for a while I cannot corroborate the drive. Will hopefully soon. Jon Edited August 8, 2012 by O.C.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSight Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) So the 33097's fit in the rear but what about the front? looking to order a full set for my gen 1 brat. Edited August 10, 2012 by BlindSight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O.C.D. Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 So the 33097's fit in the rear but what about the front? looking to order a full set for my gen 1 brat. Fronts I am kind of lost now. I read in Mikaelda's thread that these work for gen 1 wagon's but I am not sure about Brats? The picture below shows these bolts inside the springs? I really have no idea what these are for and even if the struts linked above will work? I am thinking no? Anyone have input on these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O.C.D. Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Maybe those bolts hold the spring plate? Maybe it bolts to the strut? I gotta look at mine more in depth tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O.C.D. Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Maybe the KYB's remove that plate entirely and use theirs? I would love for some feedback from other cause that would be so simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSight Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 They are adjustment bolts...1gen brats have them...they should be mounted to a plate under the spring. From what ive found there are some replacements available for the front but they don't adjust...which would be fine but no-one ever lists a PN or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O.C.D. Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 They are adjustment bolts...1gen brats have them...they should be mounted to a plate under the spring. From what ive found there are some replacements available for the front but they don't adjust...which would be fine but no-one ever lists a PN or anything. Agreed - part numbers are secretly guarded here, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBARU3 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 REAR SHOCKS (BRAT) GABRIAL PARTS MASTER 82018 AC/Delco 520-275 Monroe LE10007 REAR SHOCKS MONROE # 1193 (MONROEMATIC) I am also told that these fit rear GEN 1s 1981 - 1987 Ford Granada 1978 - 1983 Ford Fairmont 1979-1986 Mecury Capri 1981-1982 Mecury Cougar 1982-1986 Mercury Marquis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSight Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Yeah still looking for the fronts though, thanks for the detailed info on the rears, will be picking up a set soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosens Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 You can get more height by adjusting those. Likely to be frozen no matter where you live , but heat and Yeild/PB Blaster or equiv. will work eventually. Wow , I didn't see the 2nd page - pardon me ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonvo Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 if im remembering right the fronts are oil filled meaning that the strut tube is the actual strut solution is a rebuild with thicker oil look into motercycle shock oil it comes in a number of different weights to suit your needs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSight Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Thanks for the info. Planning on lowering my brat an inch or two so don't want worn out struts, would like something a little stiffer so I won't bottom out with every bump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zefy Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 At one point there was a build thread for a set of these... http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=88695 They used something like a beetle insert and some other madness. The OP designed and put them together... don't know if he is still active or not. Could be worth looking into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSight Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Hmmm, 4 years old so probably a long shot and these raise the brat which im trying to lower but thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zefy Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 The lift he got was from the springs, not the shocks themselves. You could also just get koni inserts. Would be custom like the other ones but would probably be the best system possible. Konis require access to the bottom of the strut. I can't recall how much room is available between the bottom of the strut and the axle boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levears Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I was able to buy Monroe 33097 shocks for the rear of my 1979 brat from Sears.com for $14.59 each plus shipping. http://www.sears.com/monroe-shocks-struts-33097-monro-matic-plus-shock/p-SPM890425114?sLevel=0&redirectType=SKIP_LEVEL I was also able to buy Subaru part# 721032260 front struts for my brat from SubaruParts.com for $118.76 each plus shipping. The Part number on the old struts from my brat is 621052270, when I entered this at SubaruParts.com it was superseeded by part# 721032260. http://www.subaruparts.com/cart/?pn=621052270 Both the shocks and the struts have been installed on the brat and made a huge improvement over the old worn out stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O.C.D. Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I was able to buy Monroe 33097 shocks for the rear of my 1979 brat from Sears.com for $14.59 each plus shipping. http://www.sears.com/monroe-shocks-struts-33097-monro-matic-plus-shock/p-SPM890425114?sLevel=0&redirectType=SKIP_LEVEL I was also able to buy Subaru part# 721032260 front struts for my brat from SubaruParts.com for $118.76 each plus shipping. The Part number on the old struts from my brat is 621052270, when I entered this at SubaruParts.com it was superseeded by part# 721032260. http://www.subaruparts.com/cart/?pn=621052270 Both the shocks and the struts have been installed on the brat and made a huge improvement over the old worn out stuff. Nice, thanks for adding to this thread! Pics of the front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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