bratman18 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 If you want to keep the sway bars, you'll need the sway bar mounts off a forester to drop them down far enough. That's for the rear. The front you may want upgrade the endlinks, but that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayJ1993 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Will this work for the 2004 impreza outback sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratman18 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Will this work for the 2004 impreza outback sport For 02-07 imprezas, you just simply bolt in 98-08 forester struts or 96-99 outback struts. The entire assemblies bolt in without modification. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoss5723 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Does anyone know if there is clearance for a 27.1" tire (205/75/15) on a 96 OBS with Outback struts? Will a strut top spacer be needed? We are almost at the point where we can just try it and find out, but if anyone can speak from experience, it would be appreciated. I'd rather not install the struts only to find out that we need to remove them again and install a spacer, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratman18 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Might fit with some trimming. Although, a 215 65 16 would fit with alight rubbing, maybe check to see what the height differences are between the 2? If you put strut spacers on top of the outback struts on an obs, you should really do subframe spacers too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buktop3 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I was with 205/70/15 on stock 98 Impreza struts. It rubbed a lot in the front, the back was a very tight fit. I am pretty sure that 205/75/15 will need trimming to fit with no rubbing.Post some pics when you are done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoss5723 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I was with 205/70/15 on stock 98 Impreza struts. It rubbed a lot in the front, the back was a very tight fit. I am pretty sure that 205/75/15 will need trimming to fit with no rubbing. Post some pics when you are done. This gives me some hope. The wheel arches on this car are shot, so we can trim those down no problem. In fact, may places are "trimmed" already, in a manner of speaking, courtesy of PENNDOT. Where specifically did they rub in the front? I'm hoping that it will be places that will be alleviated by the lift or easily "adjusted" with a BFH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buktop3 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) They rubbed a lot on the plastic under fenders, especially on full lock and bumps. It needed some cutting + zip ties and still wasn't "rubfree", but it was drivable. I have this one pic from when i put them on: Now the car is lifted with 2" spacers (stock Impreza struts) and there is no rubbing at all. Edited December 8, 2015 by buktop3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoss5723 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) They rubbed a lot on the plastic under fenders, especially on full lock and bumps. It needed some cutting + zip ties and still wasn't "rubfree", but it was drivable. I have this one pic from when i put them on: Now that car is lifted with 2" spacers (stock Impreza struts) and there is no rubbing at all. This is what I wanted to hear! Thanks! I also like your 4x100 lug pattern modification Edited December 8, 2015 by jmoss5723 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubie Dad Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Old Newbie here. Great thread. Bought a '98 Impreza L wagon for daughter's first car (safe for Boston winters, cheap enough that she can bang it up a bit, and we can eventually turn it into a rally car!). OBS hood/spoilers and flat-black wheelcovers adding a dash of attitude. Problem: Butt sagged and rear struts shagged; Daddy's back just as bad. Winter's coming, and don't want to dive in too deep at the moment. The front end is fine, and going all around with the 195/60-15 Blizzaks that came with the car. Question: Can I throw in Forester or Outback rear struts to solve butt-sag and maybe give the thing a little bit of forward rake that won't look too silly with the smallish tires? (I'm willing to upsize, though.) Do I need to change the trailing-arm brackets and camber bolts as well? I want to retain the sway bar and steady handling characteristics. I guess the real question is, what do I NEED to do to to fix the problem, and be able to sleep when she goes skiing? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoss5723 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Having done a few subie lifts now, I would think that it would look a little silly with just the back lifted. You would definitely need the camber bolts and trailing arm brackets. The quickest and easiest solution is to just replace the rear struts with KYB Excel-G. If you want to bring the back up a little bit over stock, put in 3/8" strut top spacers that you can buy from a few vendors or make at home pretty simply and cheaply with a sheet of HDPE plastic from Amazon. On a side note, having just torn apart an East coast Impreza to do a lift, I can confidently say that if the car is rusty, DON'T BOTHER trying to do the full lift. The number of things that will break is staggering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubie Dad Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Thanks Jmoss. I will defer to your expertise and my own laziness. I'll go for the KYB cartridges and spacers. That sounds like enough work to me, despite the balmy December we are having. I'll let bigger tires do the talking in the Spring. The car is surprisingly clean, given its Rust Coast life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoss5723 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) If you decide to make the spacers yourself (The plastic cuts really easy and it is really cheap). For the rears, use the steel plate that covers the strut top in your car for the template. You can make both spacers in under an hour with a band saw and a hole saw. You can do it with a hacksaw or coping saw and a big drill bit, too but it'll take a little bit longer. Edited December 17, 2015 by jmoss5723 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoss5723 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 New Gen Lift Pattern.pdf This lift spacer template should really be in this thread. Just print, cut out, and trace. One important note is that the rear spacer WILL NOT WORK on a 1st gen Impreza strut. If you are not swapping to Forester or Outback struts, you will need to use a different template for a rear spacer. The good news is that you car comes equipped with it's very own template: the steel plate covering the rear strut top. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlitz87 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I have a 2005 Saab 9-2X Aero (2005 Subaru WRX Wagon) After reading this through I had a question: Can I use my stock WRX springs with just getting the Forester struts? If I use the Forester struts and WRX springs will i need the rear sway bar brackets, trailing arm mount and front STI links? I was thinking when it comes time to replace my struts I would make the suspension change. Originally I was looking at a Ground Control kit but I am really about the look over total off road capability. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratman18 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 If you use your springs on forester struts, or visa versa, the struts will wear out prematurely. You really need to match the springs with the struts they came on. And yes you'll need the forester sway bar brackets to retain the sway bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoss5723 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I was with 205/70/15 on stock 98 Impreza struts. It rubbed a lot in the front, the back was a very tight fit. I am pretty sure that 205/75/15 will need trimming to fit with no rubbing. Post some pics when you are done. Almost forgot to put the pics up! With the OEM plastic splash guard/mud flap things removed, there is no rubbing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBassInUrMFface Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Thanks for all the great info guys. I have a '16 WRX, and didn't see much if anything on the thread regarding the current model. For some background, I use it as a daily driver and want to maintain highway handling, but I frequently take it off-road and hate being held back by clearance limitations, but don't want to worry about rolling. I know it's a give and take, but might as well at least try and get what you want, right? From my research, it seems that I have 4 options: 1) spacers ($200) 2) raised King Springs (1.1" front 1.3" rear lift) ($450) 3) raised King Springs, 1/2" front 3/8" rear spacers (anything larger would compromise handling I hear), and a rear subframe spacer kit ($800) 4) Feal Max Travel 441 Coilovers (I think these are the "Gravel" coilovers previously available) ($1550) It seems pretty unanimous that springs are preferred to spacers in terms of performance, though lift amount is comparable. Obviously #3 would have more lift than #1 or 2, but some have advised against adding spacers to the King Springs to maintain handling. The sales rep at Feal has advised that its Max Travel 441s could raise the car up to 2" above stock (although the website only says 1"). This would put #4 at the top of the list lift-wise with the added benefit of improving handling, but it is significantly more expensive. Also, there may be the added benefit of allowing for a bigger wheel than otherwise possible with a spring/spacer combo due to the longer length of the strut (unconfirmed). Are there any other solutions that I should be considering (other than increased wheel size, which I will do after determining the new clearance after the lift)? And any comments/guidance/suggestions on the above options? Thanks in advance, will be sure to post pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypants Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I will be lifting my 2004 WRX with FXT struts & 3/8" saggy but spacers. I will be fabing up some rear trailing arm mount spacers. I see 1" 1.5" and 2" sets sold on line. If i keep the stock mount, how much drop would center the wheel? I have seen mixed reviews of the 99 OB mount, where some say it does the job while others wanted more geometry correcton. I want to go with 215/65r16s Grabbers. I hear they are still a tight fit. Will they rub in the rear if I load up the car? We head to the mountains with 2 big dogs, 2 kids, the wife, and a cargo box on the roof filled with our stuff. I really like the look of the 215/65s but 215/60s are just under an inch smaller in diameter and may work better for us. Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benawhati Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Sorry to bring up an old topic, but you leave the front sway bar and links factory? I am looking to lift my 02 Impreza TS and just want to make sure ive got everything right when I go to do it. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QualityAutoPB Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) On an 02-03 impreza you should only need Forrester struts and rear trailing arms. Everything else bolts right up. I lifted mine like that and it turned out great. Edited February 5, 2016 by QualityAutoPB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QualityAutoPB Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 My impreza with Forrester swap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benawhati Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 On an 02-03 impreza you should only need Forrester struts and rear trailing arms. Everything else bolts right up. I lifted mine like that and it turned out great. Did you keep the sway bars or ditch them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benawhati Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 what size tires are you running? That is a perfect stance imo! Any rubbing issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QualityAutoPB Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Running 215/65R16 General Grabber AT2. They are amazing. Very minor rubbing on front liners when turning hard while hitting bumps. I would recommend wheel spacers though because I barely have a finger width in between my tires and my springs. Hasn't caused any problems but better to be safe than sorry and it would give the stance a little more width and would look awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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