Jump to content


Welcome to Ultimate Subaru Message Board, my lurker friend!

Welcome to Ultimate Subaru Message Board, an unparalleled Subaru community full of the greatest Subaru gurus and modders on the planet! We offer technical information and discussion about all things Subaru, the best and most popular all wheel drive vehicles ever created.

We offer all this information for free to everyone, even lurkers like you! All we ask in return is that you sign up and give back some of what you get out - without our awesome registered users none of this would be possible! Plus, you get way more great stuff as a member! Lurk to lose, participate to WIN*!
  • Say hello and join the conversation
  • Subscribe to topics and forums to get automatic updates
  • Get your own profile and make new friends
  • Classifieds with all sorts of Subaru goodies
  • Photo hosting in our gallery
  • Meet other cool people with cool cars
Seriously, what are you waiting for? Make your life more fulfilling and join today! You and your Subaru won't regret it, we guarantee** it.

* The joy of participation and being generally awesome constitutes winning
** Not an actual guarantee, but seriously, you probably won't regret it!

Serving the Subaru Community since May 18th, 1998!

Guest Message by DevFuse
 

Photo
- - - - -

washington and emissions testing


  • Please log in to reply
17 replies to this topic

#1 ontherun987

ontherun987

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • 134 posts
  • spanaway wa

Posted 27 December 2011 - 06:25 PM

I would like to put a weber on my 1987 gl, Is this legal in Washington? I am confused because when I put this on there I read that I am changing/removing the emission standards on the vehicle. Sorry, if this sounds like a simple question, but if I don't ask, I don't learn.

Edited by ontherun987, 27 December 2011 - 06:28 PM.


#2 GeneralDisorder

GeneralDisorder

    Elite Master of the Subaru

  • Members
  • 20,280 posts
  • Portland

Posted 27 December 2011 - 06:56 PM

Technically it's not legal. But if you do it right it will pass a smog shop. It's all about the implementation. Search is your friend.

GD

#3 ontherun987

ontherun987

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • 134 posts
  • spanaway wa

Posted 27 December 2011 - 07:25 PM

what do get a ticket if they find out?

#4 suberdave

suberdave

    www.suberdave.com

  • Members
  • 1,000 posts
  • Covington

Posted 27 December 2011 - 11:58 PM

if you already have your 2012 tabs than you will never have to pass another emissions test... ever... but if you still have your 2011 tabs. you will have one more...

in Washington state, there is no inspection, if it passes the sniffer you will get your tabs. now if it fails then you will not be able to get it to pass unless you have all the OEM emissions equipment still in working order. however that is not always true eather. many shops will just take your $150 and attempt a repair and grant you a waiver.

-=Suberdave=-
www.suberdave.com

#5 edrach

edrach

    RIP 6/28/14

  • Members
  • 12,326 posts
  • Bothell, WA

Posted 28 December 2011 - 02:56 AM

Having driven two Brats for many years with a weber, I can verify that a properly tuned weber will pass the sniffer test with flying colors. Are you local to Seattle? If so, I can pass on the information about the local emissions specialist who will likely be able to get your car to pass emissions for a lot less than the $150. If testing is still required on your car, run it through just to see where you stand.

Spanaway looks close enough to Seattle. Sorry I wasn't paying attention earlier.

#6 ontherun987

ontherun987

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • 134 posts
  • spanaway wa

Posted 28 December 2011 - 07:09 PM

if you already have your 2012 tabs than you will never have to pass another emissions test... ever... but if you still have your 2011 tabs. you will have one more...

in Washington state, there is no inspection, if it passes the sniffer you will get your tabs. now if it fails then you will not be able to get it to pass unless you have all the OEM emissions equipment still in working order. however that is not always true eather. many shops will just take your $150 and attempt a repair and grant you a waiver.

-=Suberdave=-
www.suberdave.com


Why is 2012 my last test?

#7 Caboobaroo

Caboobaroo

    USMB Drunk

  • Members
  • 6,861 posts
  • Oregon City

Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:37 PM

Why is 2012 my last test?


Check out the rules for emission testing and ages of vehicles. Vehicles over 25 years old do not need emissions testing in King County.

#8 edrach

edrach

    RIP 6/28/14

  • Members
  • 12,326 posts
  • Bothell, WA

Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:29 PM

Why is 2012 my last test?

Caboobaroo has it correct; although I think the 25 year rule is statewide; it's certainly that way where I live in Snohomish county. You can find out more here: http://www.dol.wa.go.../emissions.html
Odd, this URL doesn't consider 25+ year old cars exempt. Maybe that exemption has changed. I certainly hope not.
I went looking for local emissions rules because some rural areas (sorry I consider Spanaway rural---no offense intended) are exempt from emissions testing.

#9 edrach

edrach

    RIP 6/28/14

  • Members
  • 12,326 posts
  • Bothell, WA

Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:32 PM

I would like to put a weber on my 1987 gl, Is this legal in Washington? I am confused because when I put this on there I read that I am changing/removing the emission standards on the vehicle. Sorry, if this sounds like a simple question, but if I don't ask, I don't learn.

If you haven't put the weber on already, you're welcome to get an emissions test any time, even if it's not due. A passed test document is good for one year and will get you past the 25 year exemption if it's still law and if you pass the test sometime in January 2012 or later. But then again, if you don't pass you're not obligated to get your car passed until you renew your tabs.

#10 ontherun987

ontherun987

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • 134 posts
  • spanaway wa

Posted 29 December 2011 - 10:49 PM

Thank you all for the input. I think i will just wait a while to put the weber on, my tabs are up in February.

#11 edrach

edrach

    RIP 6/28/14

  • Members
  • 12,326 posts
  • Bothell, WA

Posted 29 December 2011 - 10:55 PM

Thank you all for the input. I think i will just wait a while to put the weber on, my tabs are up in February.

In that case do the emissions test now. Then add the weber shortly thereafter; you'll have two years to go before the next emissions test and you'll fall under the 25 year exemption if it's active in your area.

#12 ontherun987

ontherun987

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • 134 posts
  • spanaway wa

Posted 29 December 2011 - 11:05 PM

In that case do the emissions test now. Then add the weber shortly thereafter; you'll have two years to go before the next emissions test and you'll fall under the 25 year exemption if it's active in your area.


how would I find out is the 25 year exemption active in my county ?

#13 6 Star

6 Star

    Boxer Nostalgic

  • Members
  • 981 posts
  • South Seattle, WA

Posted 30 December 2011 - 12:02 AM

I'm pretty sure its all of washington that has the 25-year-old-car-exempt rule. A quick google search of pierce county emissions rules will confirm that.

#14 notliving

notliving

    New User

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 37 posts
  • vancouver

Posted 30 December 2011 - 02:47 AM

If you live in ANYWHERE in WA then your car will be exempt after it hits 25 yrs. There are many counties that don't even have emissions testing.

If you had your car tested in 2011 you will never have to go through emissions again.

Odd years are tested on odd years, even years are tested on even years.

#15 edrach

edrach

    RIP 6/28/14

  • Members
  • 12,326 posts
  • Bothell, WA

Posted 30 December 2011 - 01:46 PM

Odd years are tested on odd years, even years are tested on even years.

Not quite correct. I'm not sure at what year, that switches; but later model cars are tested in the opposite year. For example, our '99 Forester is due for retest in 2012; yet our '84 Brat was tested in even years (until the 25 year exemption took place). And the OP's '87 GL is apparently due in Feb. 2012. If he passes with his next test, he'll be past the 25 year exemption in 2014.

Edited by edrach, 30 December 2011 - 01:51 PM.


#16 suberdave

suberdave

    www.suberdave.com

  • Members
  • 1,000 posts
  • Covington

Posted 30 December 2011 - 11:28 PM

it is not odd years test on odd years any more. since they changed the rules to cars dont need to be tested the first 5 years or after 25 years.

so if you bought a car in 2005 then the first test date would be 2010. thus makeing it odd year even test year.

and yeah the 25+ rule is state wide. not county wide.

i have the WA state emissions book if you want to know any more info. i am a WA state emissions certified technition. i have taken the class and recirtified 3 times now.

-=Suberdave=-

#17 ontherun987

ontherun987

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • 134 posts
  • spanaway wa

Posted 31 December 2011 - 02:47 AM

it is not odd years test on odd years any more. since they changed the rules to cars dont need to be tested the first 5 years or after 25 years.

so if you bought a car in 2005 then the first test date would be 2010. thus makeing it odd year even test year.

and yeah the 25+ rule is state wide. not county wide.

i have the WA state emissions book if you want to know any more info. i am a WA state emissions certified technition. i have taken the class and recirtified 3 times now.

-=Suberdave=-

do I still have to get a test in 2014 or is 2012 my last one?

#18 edrach

edrach

    RIP 6/28/14

  • Members
  • 12,326 posts
  • Bothell, WA

Posted 31 December 2011 - 01:51 PM

do I still have to get a test in 2014 or is 2012 my last one?

If it passes in 2012, that'll be your last required emissions test for your '87.




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users