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Tire size/lowering jobs?


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#1 92_rugby_subie

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 10:43 PM

I have plans of a 5 lug swap on 05 Legacy GT wheels.

They are the 5 spoke ones.
55mm offset
17"

I want to run tires so that I fill up the wheel well.

My 195/60/15s looked great, filled the wheel wells, but I wasnt lowered. Now I was thinking of lowering an inch? Maybe I should keep it stock? I still plan to DD NED after the 5 lug swap, and use him in the snow (when Oregon gets it). Although, an option is just to put 15/16" steelies on him with winter tires....

Im wondering who has done a 17"+ wheel on their GL wagon/sedan? Do you have pictures and specs. Im talking either stock height or lowered, not interested in the lifted rigs at the moment (sorry)

EDIT: PS, I do NOT want pancake tires either... I dont mind low profile if I need to.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 01:14 AM

What are pancake tires?

#3 92_rugby_subie

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 05:15 PM

The super low profile that you see on those old school cars with 26" rims

I at least want an inch of tire all around, Id prefer at least a few inches though... so I can have real tires.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 05:16 PM

http://www.ultimates...ad.php?t=128972

The way this looks is fine, but I feel like it could rub or something...

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 12:39 AM

17x8 +48s, with 215/45r17s. Lowered about 2". Fenders rolled at all 4 corners

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springs: 250 lb/in front and 275 lb/in rear (stiffer than stock, but relatively soft for most coilover sleeves), with stock damping. Never had any rubbing issues with those tires.

205/65r15 snow tires (actually taller overall than the 17s) also fit fine.

I did have some issues with 225/55r16 track tires on stock WRX wheels as the offset was too high for 6.5" wide wheels.

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 08:58 PM

17x8 +48s, with 215/45r17s. Lowered about 2". Fenders rolled at all 4 corners

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springs: 250 lb/in front and 275 lb/in rear (stiffer than stock, but relatively soft for most coilover sleeves), with stock damping. Never had any rubbing issues with those tires.

205/65r15 snow tires (actually taller overall than the 17s) also fit fine.

I did have some issues with 225/55r16 track tires on stock WRX wheels as the offset was too high for 6.5" wide wheels.


Exactly what I was looking for!
Im a complete noob at the rolling fenders though, would I have a shop do that? I dont trust my skills :Flame:

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 11:36 PM

Exactly what I was looking for!
Im a complete noob at the rolling fenders though, would I have a shop do that? I dont trust my skills :Flame:


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Posted 26 January 2012 - 11:22 PM

So this question pertains to the 5 lug swap.

Found an XT6 car, blown motor... my idea is to buy it (super cheap) swap the 5 lug to the GL and then scrap the rest, basically getting a free 5 lug set-up... and sway-bars etc... what all can I use? The whole 5 lug? Swaybars? Anything else performance wise? An AWD swap with an EJ transmission is also in the future.

I want to do the rear e-brake conversion, but I also want to upgrade my brakes.... putting an EJ22T in the car, I need whoa to go with the go... ya know? (Cool story bro)

Can I upgrade bigger brakes? Like WRX brakes with the 5 lug swap? I am going with 17" wheels so Im not worried about clearance issues.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 11:30 PM

Dude.... Search, and re-search.... And do some research..... (cool story bro-earch)

In short, YES.....

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:56 PM

Face palm...
Im an idiot... Suberdave...

Hes running WRX parts... 17" wheels with WRX brakes... Sweet.

So Ill be saving my pennies to buy an XT6 parts car :drunk:

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 12:27 AM

I'm running my Enkeis on my XT6 currently but had them on my '87 RX too.

Enkei RPF1s 17x8, 45mm offset, running 215/45R17 Toyo Proxes 4s.

On my XT6, the tires have barely rubbed on the rear springs under HARD cornering. Just enough to take the paint off over time.

On the RX, they did almost the same thing to the springs as they did the ones on my XT6 which makes sense, same track width as an EA82. Now I also had the right rear tire rub on the inside of the quarter panel so I rolled it a bit, did it not as bad. Only under hard left cornering though.

My fixes?
I'm getting a different set of wheels for my XT6 (found a set of BBS LM replica 18x8 38mm offset for $500:banana:) as I have lots of room it the rear fender wells to offset them out a bit. If i decide to ever track it though, I will use the Enkeis with a small 3mm spacer.

The RX is getting box flares to fit wider tires for track days when I finish it someday:lol:

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 07:52 PM

I think I will go 205/40/17 as I have found a few tire options that are affordable.

According to the Miata.Net tire size calculator:
Old tire: 185/70/13
New Tire: 205/40/17

Difference in height: .3"

Difference in speedometer: 60mph actually means 60.7mph :headbang:

No big deal.

But Id say that means I can drop 2 inches and not rub since if I dropped 2 inches now, I wouldnt rub... wheel wells look so huge...

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 08:36 PM

Don't forget about width and offset. These 2 factors can cause rubbing issues regardless of overall height.....

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 07:43 PM

Don't forget about width and offset. These 2 factors can cause rubbing issues regardless of overall height.....


Yea I have to research that bit some more...

I know the offset is 55mm, and I think the wheels are 17X7

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:14 PM

55mm is quite a bit of offset. Just make sure to check the clearances between the inside of the tire and the rear coil springs. I had a set of Prodrive P1s 17x7 +53 on my XT6 and they rubbed on the springs.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 03:12 PM

I think Ive decided to switch the wheel/tire combo currently...

I really like these... not sure what color Id do them yet, MAYBE gold, but thinking white or black or gunmetal could look sick too :brow:

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I saw them on a lifted Loyale... and think they look sick... gives me a little more sidewall too, even when I lower the car down...

Gotta do research and make sure these are a good offset.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 03:22 PM

Hows this?

17lbs each
16x6.5 +48 offset

Meaning I would run a 205/50/16 tire? :)

I dont think those will rub.. but I cannot find an offset guide for what my steelies are...

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 06:49 PM

That would work. Anything over 50mm is going to rub on the springs, especially under hard cornering.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 07:24 PM

That would work. Anything over 50mm is going to rub on the springs, especially under hard cornering.


Am I safe for hard corning with 48 offset? Id probably run 205/50/16 but could go down to 195/50/16 if I was gonna have a rubbing issue... Im one that will turn sharply into a parking spot if I see it a second too late :headbang:

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:21 PM

Read my post. I had +48s

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:24 PM

Thats right, you did. Sweet!

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 02:21 AM

This looks great, I'm thinking of doing this to my car. Where did you get the springs to lower it?

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:24 PM

Lots of pics and good info here

http://www.ultimates...4282#post994282




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