mickytrus Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 Hello, Got my motor apart..... cleaning it up..... pulled the camshaft seals.... I was very surprised that they weren't leaking............... It may be because of this sealant that was used on the o-rings (for sealing housing to camblock connection.)... So this sealant is what I am wondering about......... I will describe it..... I have never seen anything like it before.... I would like to get some...... it was red..... dries hard...... light can pass through it... thus, creating a nice red color... like that of say a red cough drop when the light passes through it...... or we could even say some red axle bearing grease when the light passes through it... I hope that is enough of a description.... Oh, one of the cam blocks there wasn't even an o-ring.... just the red stuff...... dried hard made a good seal..... came off in several large pieces resembling that of an o-ring... thanks, Micky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 that is either loctite flange sealant,I forget the number,but its in a red squeeze tube or GM gasket sealer(you apply it on something like the block before you put a headgasket on.)good stuff either way,guarantees a good seal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subiemech85 Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 I saw that stuf on a Rockwell trans I tore apart, ANaerobic sealer, still gooey if exposed to air, "hardened" when it sealed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 same shizz that milita stuff is spooky,I love Canada! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickytrus Posted March 22, 2004 Author Share Posted March 22, 2004 So like this gm gasket sealer is good schtuff! I there a place to buy it where I don't have to walk into a GM parts dept.. at a dealership???? Anywhere on line perhaps. WHat does "anerobic sealer", mean? I am regasketing this EA82...... and I want to be sure She seals up the best possibly....... I got the heads milled and the intake milled...... So what kind of spooge(sealant) can I use to get the best seal on this pup..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyruss Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 you can find a version of that stuff at some parts stores. I personally prefer permatex aviation sealant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subiemech85 Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 anaerobic works without air permatex at autoparts stores, $3 for the small tube http://www.permatex.com/results.asp search for anaerobic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickytrus Posted March 24, 2004 Author Share Posted March 24, 2004 This permatex aviation sealant...... Can I use this on the head gaskets as well...... I would like to use something on the head gaskets..... If not permatex aviation sealant what would you subie enthusiasts recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partsman Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Permatex anaerobic gasket maker: .2 fl oz tube - $3.29 - NAPA# 765-2433 1.69 fl oz tube - $13.49 - NAPA# 765-1189 I wouldn't advise using ANYTHING on head gaskets to my customers - anybody out there have a different experience with Sub heads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Headgaskets, since they are compression gaskets, and are sealing against very high combustion temperatures should always be installed dry. Anything used on the gasket could cause a hot spot, and premature failure of the gasket. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 permatex "ultra grey" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickytrus Posted March 25, 2004 Author Share Posted March 25, 2004 Thanks for all the tips..... I ask of you all one more thing..... I come from the land of castiron engines... and using "locktite"-blue for threads on bolts......... What can I use on the threads of bolts with aluminium engines??????? Due to the soft nature of aluminium I see locktite being a bad thing to use............... thanks, Micky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 the only place on the soob motor that i would see appropriate for thread locker would be the timing bely idler pulley on the driver side, and the exhaust studs DO NOT use gasket sealer on a soob, cause the gaskets are graphite faced to allow for different expansion rates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickytrus Posted March 25, 2004 Author Share Posted March 25, 2004 Well, that is good information....... As for the bolts....... not using threadlocker........... How about using the permatex aviation sealer on the bolts...... IE: headgasket bolts, cambox bolts, waterpump bolts and the intake bolts..... what are people using on the bolts as a sealer??????????? you know from anti-freeze or oil running up the threads and then leaking out at the head of the bolt........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyruss Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 subarus dont have that kinf of issue. they dont run the bolts into water jackets or oil passages like some other cars do. and if you do fide a situation like that. once again the aviation sealant is recomended for use on threads too. no sealant on the HG is true. there is only one sealant that I have heard of for HG use and that is copper coat. but I agree with dry instal. like miles mentioned the ultra grey is good for the case halfs and cam boxes along with some other uses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickytrus Posted March 26, 2004 Author Share Posted March 26, 2004 That is great! got some of that aviation sealant just picked it up today.......... I'll use that on the threads........ How about the o-rings?????? do you use anything on o-rings????? and for that matter...... the mickey mouse seal?????? and the camcover gaskets/rubbers...... do you install the camcovers dry or use the aviation sealant on them as well???????? Thanks, Micky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyruss Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 I dont think you are supposed to put it on the O rings and mickey seal. I use just a little any way. dont spooge it all over. be sparing. oh and it really sticks to your fingers use gloves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subusolo2nut Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 We use it at the shop--It's a Locktight product--I forget the # also, but it is a anaerobic sealer--looks & smells like strawberry jelly--I use it when I want a part REALLY sealed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickytrus Posted March 26, 2004 Author Share Posted March 26, 2004 This strawberry jelly locktite sealant. I think I have seen that stuff in action....... it works good......... can anybody give me a part # or name on it...... I think I would like to get some of that sppooge...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subiemech85 Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 read this topic, as all answers have been provided already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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