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#1 suprunner

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 09:39 AM

I'm a young bum looking to do some modifications to an old wagon. I have a rusty (but rugged and LOYAL) 1992 Loyale, but I'm thinking that I want to get a GL. I like the Dual Range t-cases. . . I want to put a EJ22 in, and put a conservative lift on it with some 14" wheels (Know where I can find some?). . . Will be needing lots of help/advice by this Fall (2012). If I can find a GL-10, then I think that I'll just do the lift modification. I'm looking for a good and clean wagon if you know anyone!
This past Winter, I took a 1986 Toyota 4Runner through a hellish job. I taught myself how to cut metal and weld with it. . . I did a solid axle swap, re-geared the diffs, put a new transmission in, dropped a 1990 Toyota Supra 7MGE motor in, and did a lot of crying/spending money... Very good, but harsh learning experience for me. Of course, it's still not done. Currently have the valves exposed, and am chasing a valve tick.
I'd like to sell that beast, and purchase a mid-90's Toyota Winnebago (take out the 3.slooow and bolt in the 5vzfe 3.4L) and travel North America with the Gal-pal (Jen).
This will all have to wait until this Fall because of my job in the summer. I work for the Forest Service, and am gone most of the time. Last August, I had one day off, and I think about three in July, maybe four or five in June. . .

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 11:17 AM

Welcome guy! You can pretty much find anything you'll ever need to know on here! This is where I first started for my ej swap at age 17.

Conservative lift, so like 2"? Depending on how high you want it, I thought I wanted a 2" but I figured out its not enough if your going to be wheelin (for me) with out fender cutting to run even 27" tires. Planning on running stock tires?

14" rims are hard to come by unless your willing to spend some $$. I saw some on here the other day that were 15" rims for our wagons for 75$ each. Theres two other methods you can go at this,

1. Get some 6lug yota rims with a 5.5" span like the wagon, either reseill the rims to fit the wagon

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2. Do a 6lug redrill to fit most yota 6lug rims not that bad of a job. Tons of stuff on here about it. :)

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:13 PM

I run 27inch tires with a 2 inch lift and i didnt cut.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:17 PM

Welcome!

You have hit the jackpot for info on anything (plus more) subaru.



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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:39 PM

Welcome guy! You can pretty much find anything you'll ever need to know on here! This is where I first started for my ej swap at age 17.

Conservative lift, so like 2"? Depending on how high you want it, I thought I wanted a 2" but I figured out its not enough if your going to be wheelin (for me) with out fender cutting to run even 27" tires. Planning on running stock tires?

14" rims are hard to come by unless your willing to spend some $$. I saw some on here the other day that were 15" rims for our wagons for 75$ each. Theres two other methods you can go at this,

1. Get some 6lug yota rims with a 5.5" span like the wagon, either redrill the rims to fit the wagon

Or

2. Do a 6lug redrill to fit most yota 6lug rims not that bad of a job. Tons of stuff on here about it. :)


Thanks for responding!

I was considering a two inch lift, but now after drooling over many pictures, I've now settled on a four inch lift. . . But, I'm not sure if I'll need different springs, or where I'll get the steering shaft.
I'm unsure on what I'm going to do with the wheels. I'm not certain on an item... Does the larger diameter (plus extra rotational mass...) of the rim/tire combo create a problem for the gears? I was under the assumption that we can't re-gear our old subies to a different reduction...? With Toyota's, there's a large aftermarket following for crawling stuff. If it's not a problem, I'll probably go with re-drilling my hubs for the Toyota 6-lug pattern. I've been following this thread on the conversion.
With the EJ22 swap, what did you use for clutch components? As of now, that seems to be the only thing that I'm confused about. . .One of the read-ups pieced together parts from different cars... If I source a motor from a U-pull-it, are the block internals good to leave? I'm assuming that the heads should be cleaned up just for good measure. . . Are the EJ22T's pretty rare? I drive like a grandma, so I feel that a turbo under my hood would last a long time (speaking in reliability terms...).

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:44 PM

I run 27inch tires with a 2 inch lift and i didnt cut.



Thanks for the response! Did you use different springs? Sway-bar?

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:45 PM

Welcome!

You have hit the jackpot for info on anything (plus more) subaru.



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Thanks!

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 05:17 PM

Thanks for responding!

I was considering a two inch lift, but now after drooling over many pictures, I've now settled on a four inch lift. . . But, I'm not sure if I'll need different springs, or where I'll get the steering shaft.
I'm unsure on what I'm going to do with the wheels. I'm not certain on an item... Does the larger diameter (plus extra rotational mass...) of the rim/tire combo create a problem for the gears? I was under the assumption that we can't re-gear our old subies to a different reduction...? With Toyota's, there's a large aftermarket following for crawling stuff. If it's not a problem, I'll probably go with re-drilling my hubs for the Toyota 6-lug pattern. I've been following this thread on the conversion.
With the EJ22 swap, what did you use for clutch components? As of now, that seems to be the only thing that I'm confused about. . .One of the read-ups pieced together parts from different cars... If I source a motor from a U-pull-it, are the block internals good to leave? I'm assuming that the heads should be cleaned up just for good measure. . . Are the EJ22T's pretty rare? I drive like a grandma, so I feel that a turbo under my hood would last a long time (speaking in reliability terms...).


Yeah 4" are a pretty good choice, not to big not to small.

Now for the stearing I have one laying around that I could fab up for you for some green?$$ :) and springs no need to diffrent springs, it's a spacer bracket that hooks from the top of the frame spacing to the top of the spring. And the front struts are simmaler but diffrent type of set up.

EJ stuff
Now the clutch your going to want it an Xt6 clutch kit, the pressure plate is stronger and can hold the extra torque from the ej. Xt6 years I think are 88-91, I just bought one off Rockauto for 150$ not bad for that clutch when napa wanted 230$.
For the motor your going to want to get a doner car, prolly pick out up for cheap crashed but can. Or out here in Oregon there's a place that sells the motor and harness(not stripped) runs and all, so you don't have to mess with a rebuild. Turbos I've read arnt good for wheelin.
Gears wize as low as you can go is 3.7 I'm pretty sure but you won't have to change any of that. Many guys run 3.9 and 4.11 with larger tires with no problem.
And you'll need an addaptor plate, I'm getting ready to make some now, so keep an eye out for it or pm me when your getting ready for the swap :)

I'm pretty sure than answers everything? Haha. Lot there.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:46 PM

Sounds like a great plan, wish I had the time and money to get my brat tricked out and drag it around the county with a lady :(

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:02 PM

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 08:58 AM

Sounds like a great plan, wish I had the time and money to get my brat tricked out and drag it around the county with a lady :(



Well, it's a very big decision. We really recommend it. Get a seasonal-type job (Forest Service?), save every penny while working, then do what you want after work is done. Sell the things that you know that you don't need. Travel Light. Depending on how old you are, a year or two of this style of living/traveling won't set your bank account back too far. It's the experience that we're really after. I read a quote from an old man that started a very big business (scheels). He said something like: "Retire while you're young. Then when you're older, think about what you want to do for the rest of your life."

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:59 PM

hey ive followed the site for a long time and love it and wheel at walker and a few ther places alot and ive seen alot of the cars on here and owned one lifted 87 gl turbo wagon with 6 lug swap lifted 4" traded it for a jeep cherokee (DUMB)! but i just recently picked up a 79 brat for 600 and have alot of ideas floating around id like to do a 4" lift bigger tires blah blah but definatly id like to meet some brat owners and see some new ideas, hit me up!




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