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Show me your dipstick... transmission capacity question


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#1 thedoctor

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 07:13 PM

1983 DL non-4WD transmission capacity is listed in How to Keep Your Subaru Alive as "almost 3 quarts". I drained mine and dumped in 2 quarts, checked the dipstick and it showed about double the fill amount.

Take a look at the photos. Is it possible I have the wrong dipstick?

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#2 thedoctor

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:18 PM

Forgot to mention my transmission serial number is 013339, if that is helpful to anyone.

Also, I want to mention that I have been having a problem of transmission gear oil travelling up the speedometer cable and dripping on the drivers floor. Is it possible that this transmission only requires 1 ONE Quart of gear oil?

Please discuss.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:56 PM

I fill my transmission with 3 quarts of gear oil.
I couldnt tell you why yours is so overfull.
it looks like the correct dipstick however it seems pretty dirty.

For the spedometer cable there should be a seal at the end of the cable on the tranny. it is likely worn and needs replaced.



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Capacity 4-speed and 5-speed

(except 4WD) (2.9 US qt )


(4WD) (3.2USqt)

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:09 PM

Speedometer cable replaced in August 2011. It may need it again. But I still need to figure out this capacity problem.

According to my dipstick, I should only need 1 qt to fill. Does that make sense?

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:24 PM

Similarly, does anyone know if the 4-speed DR trans dipstick is the same as the 5-speed DR dipstick?

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 10:25 PM

I drained mine and dumped in 2 quarts...


How much gear oil came out of your transmission? It's always a good rule to check how much oil (gear, motor, or ATF) you've drained before refilling, especially if the car is somewhat new to you. It can give you a ballpark volume for refilling since you never get it drained completely, and also gives you a chance to see what's in the "bottoms" that came out of whatever you're draining.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 10:28 PM

I put 3 quarts in my EA71 2wd 5spd and it put it exactly on the full. Either the dipstick is wrong, not all the fluid drained out of the transmission (like previous poster said, how much drained out?), or you drained your oil instead! lol. This IS a manual transmission right?

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 02:39 AM

I would just drain it and see how much comes out. Then fill with exactly 3 quarts and see how many quarts it takes to make it be on the top mark?

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:43 PM

It's possible that your dipstick isn't original. That would be easily confusing.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:02 PM

Similarly, does anyone know if the 4-speed DR trans dipstick is the same as the 5-speed DR dipstick?


I have the dipstick for a 4speed dr sitting next to a 5 speed dr. the 5 speed is about 3" longer.
Id show you but I cant find my camera at the moment

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 07:19 PM

If you could, could you measure the exact length difference for me?

Im going to do a 5-speed swap, but the 5-speed I have is lacking the dipstick. So Id like to use the 4-speed one. Or modify it to work :)

Thanks!

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 09:21 PM

Sorry for the low quality pic,The 4 speed is on the left an the 5 speed it on the right.

4 speed dr measures from the base of the stopper as shown to the end at 7 1/16" to be precise.
5 speed dr measured from the same points with the dipstick straight at 10 1/4"

So the difference between them should be 3 and 3/16th". Or just as well 3 in:)

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 11:30 PM

Excellent. Thanks!!! :banana:

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 08:07 AM

I estimate that 2 quarts of tranny oil came out when I drained the old. And that too showed double overfilled on the dip stick. So I sucked out enough of the new to read full on my dip stick... and I am no longer getting oil coming up through the speedometer cable.

That could just mean my transmission is only really half full and I still have my seal problem. Unless someone can tell me I'm ok with one quart of synchromesh transmission oil, I'm going to continue to worry a bit. However, I don't mind not having oil dripping on my feet. And shifting is smooth and quiet now, whereas with the old crude in there, I was getting grinding on 2nd and 3rd. Still can't easily downshift into 2nd though.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:32 PM

Just a quick update. Everything still seems ok, but from the looks of it, I might just have a four speed dipstick... yikes.

Edited by thedoctor, 08 June 2012 - 05:24 PM.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 04:33 PM

Well, that would be a problem!

You have been overfilling the thing like crazy!

Im going to bump this up... as it would help us both. Im in a similar pickle. I have a 4-speed dipstick and 5-speed trans.

81EA81, would you be kind enough to show the hash marks on that 5-speed dipstick? I need to lengthen my 4-speed dipstick, and would like to know where the level indicators are.

Thanks!! :headbang:


Sorry for the low quality pic,The 4 speed is on the left an the 5 speed it on the right.

4 speed dr measures from the base of the stopper as shown to the end at 7 1/16" to be precise.
5 speed dr measured from the same points with the dipstick straight at 10 1/4"

So the difference between them should be 3 and 3/16th". Or just as well 3 in:)

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:20 PM

No pics currently to prove my measurements, But I used the same technique as pictured before yet with a steel ruler.

Measured from the base of the stopper to the tip it was still 10 1/4".

The "F" mark was at 9 7/16" from the base and the "L" was at 9 3/4"

I hope this helps.

Oh, I could always keep an eye out for a dipstick at the junk yard if your interested.

Just a quick update. Everything still seems ok, but from the looks of it, I might just have a four speed dipstick... yikes.

Im suprised nobody caught that. glad you noticed and thank you for the thread jack




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