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#1 zoieface

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:38 PM

My compressor to my suspension is toast. I'm wanting to convert over to springs. I think I'm going with 2wd doner cars at junk yard. Which car would b most common to find in a yard and compatible? Also if you could, give me a part list of what I need to get?
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:50 PM

First to help. What year and kinda Subaru do you have? Fwd or 4 wheel.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 09:10 AM

And to help you offset the cost, I'll buy your air struts providing they will fit my XTGL10! :grin:

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 09:46 AM

I'm really sorry about not including info. Its an 86 xt gl10 turbo 4wd 5sp. Shoot man. Get me what I need to convert to coils and we can just trade up. U can have all!!

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 01:08 PM

Have to dig through the parts shed, but I believe all you need is the front and rear struts and I think I have them from the last XT I stripped. In case my bags blew, but if I have a spare set, no need.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 03:31 PM

I have gas struts.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 09:33 PM

You have air struts, correct? You said your compressor went bad.

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 10:01 PM

Yup. I wander if it be fixed by a machine shop
But I want springs

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 10:29 PM

The compressor can be replace, but not repaired. The air struts themselves are not repairable.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 09:13 AM

Anyone down with trading me for my air ride setup?

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 10:03 AM

Yes, I am. My car has air ride, but I'm sure I have a set of regular struts from an XT I parted out. Will check after work today.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 02:41 PM

Right on man

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 11:49 PM

Answering your P.M:

Hey. Will your improved suspension setup work for my 86 xt gl10? Honda and tempo coils? Man of so I can just go to yard get those easy


My Writeup about Suspension improvements (it is, ~► Here) Was mainly intended to Reinforce the Coil Springs & Shock Absorbers on a Standard Suspension Subie, so I Don't know how Hard or Easy could be to install those Parts on a Subie equiped with Air Suspension.

My Idea was to Improve the Stock Subaru GL / DL \ Loyale Suspension with the Purpose to be used in Rough conditions, like Off-Roading, or to handle better the Loads...

That Swap Lifts the Suspension a bit in the Front and More in the Rear, which adds Stress to the Axles, Specially the Rear ones; which means that the Axles will work in certain Angle and that leads to wear them faster.

The 2WD Subies (the one without Rear Diff & Axles) won't suffer from that Stress in the Rear and the Front lift is Minimum.

Also the Feeling comparing a Stock Suspension Subaru Vs. the Swapped one with the Parts listed on the above linked Writeup, is the same like Comparing a Stock family sedan Vs the Police Version of the Same Model: Harder & Firmer Suspension but Better Handling.

I Really cannot be sure how that Swap will Work on an Air Suspension Subie.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 10:54 AM

Ahh I was hoping it work:) o well ill just focus on the honda coils.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 10:55 PM

Well... I Didn't mean it won't Work.

The Swap Could Work and if the Mounting points on the Body of the Subaru models with Air Suspension are the Same and in the same placement as the Standard suspension models, it could be Easy to do.

I've never worked on a Subaru with Air Suspension, there are Few of them here.

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 12:36 AM

Yeah. Gonna try coils first. Nice ride btw:)

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 12:59 AM

Thank you! ... I'm Glad that you Liked my BumbleBeast :D

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 09:17 PM

Np man. Once I get my car running good I'm moving on to my ideo. Add more gauges and make this think like the delorian. Back to future car!! Add more and more gauges lights. Btw, need ideas for the perfect flight simulator stick for my shifter. Buttons ftw!!! My car shall be called the ......delorianxt:))

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:05 PM

Man.. I think i need a right rear shock (it's a shock right not a strut?)

I wanted some rear air shocks since I have 2 WD and I want to add a hitch

just for some minimal towing (4x8 with 500 pounds on it)

So I was looking for some air shocks but couldnt' find any new. I had some
on my old malibu and loved em.

Anyone know if i can put rear air shocks on my 2wd 88 GL wagon? and hopefully a part number?

Edited by Danny88GL, 10 September 2012 - 02:25 AM.


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Posted 10 September 2012 - 12:17 PM

... Anyone know if i can put rear air shocks on my 2wd 88 GL wagon? ...


Well... I bet that it is Doable, but you must swap a Lot of parts, and the source could be a worn old subie...

Usually people does the other way, to swap standard suspension on the ones that has Air suspension...

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 07:48 PM

I wanted some rear air shocks since I have 2 WD and I want to add a hitch

just for some minimal towing (4x8 with 500 pounds on it)

the air struts may not be that helpful. the rear air struts collapse and don't hold much weight. i was kind of surprised in cases where i've loaded them up.

i had a FWD EJ auto transmission and an EJ18 engine (4 cylinder) in the trunk with no passengers and the air suspension could not hold that weight up.

i had one XT6 with air suspension but i converted the rear to springs and it held a *massive* 6x12 trailer with probably 1,500 or more pounds of gear and 3 people 4,000 miles to colorado and back - i posted pictures of it here. the rear springs held that fine.

if yours is weak i would suspect new struts and/or springs may be the ticket. yours may even be 25 years old by now?
you may even be able to get some stiffer springs? i just bought springs for my Outback wagon and they weren't expensive. $60 or $120 or something like that, not as bad as i thought they'd be from Subaru. could certainly get them cheaper off ebay or rockauto.

Anyone know if i can put rear air shocks on my 2wd 88 GL wagon? and hopefully a part number?

yes, any EA82....or even XT6...rear air struts will bolt right into your wagon. you'll then need to fabricate some lines or something to be able to air them up.

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 08:16 PM

Thanks, i've decided to just replace the struts with regular struts.

is a spring compressor needed? (nevermind, found it in another thread someone says yes)

Edited by Danny88GL, 14 September 2012 - 08:22 PM.





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