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My tires are too big.


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#1 starfox5194

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 09:29 AM

I have a 95 Legacy Outback Wagon 2.2L AWD.

The stock tire size is 195x60x15.
I put on 205x70x15.

They rub in the rear. when I go around corners.

Would a small lift or some coil overs do the trick?

I'm taking it back to the tire place to get the right size tires on, but only if they will do it for free. Otherwise I'm going to upgrade the suspension if that is possible.

#2 Fairtax4me

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 09:52 AM

If YOU picked that tire size they aren't gonna change them for free.

Best bet is just get some outback struts to put on it and get the clearance you need for the outback tire size.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:11 AM

if they told you there'd be no issues, you MIGHT get them swapped for free.

where do they rub? It might be possible to run a few millimeters wheel spacer - but that could lead to fender rubbing (roll them?) and more stress on the wheel bearings.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:22 AM

They rub on the bottom of the spring. No where else.

I was talking to a guy who would sell me these for 350$

http://passwordjdm.c...9Rv7Tm73O6DvZSn

I have no idea if they will bolt to my car though.

The thing is that coil overs are a lot thinner than my stock strut and spring, So i feel like that might solve the problem? It rubs a little on the inside of the rears too. Against the strut/spring.

#5 Gloyale

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 12:13 PM

Get some 96-99 Outback struts.

They are taller, and will fit the tire perfect.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 02:34 PM

Anywhere I can find 96-99 struts in good condition that are cheaper than those coil overs for 350?

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 03:00 PM

Those coilovers wont directly bolt to your car. The rear strut tops have a slightly larger bolt pattern to them. You can slot the holes to make them fit. Otherwise I recommend going with a set of KYB GR-2/Excel-G struts.

http://www.ebay.com/...4b9e6b9&vxp=mtr

Reuse your strut tops if they are still good.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 11:02 AM

Those coilovers wont directly bolt to your car. The rear strut tops have a slightly larger bolt pattern to them.


No, they will fit exactly. It's the 90-94 Legos that have the smaller bolt pattern.

At any rate, that's probably overkill.

I would simply go to the junkyard and get a whole set off an Outback used.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 06:24 PM

Gloyale, your PM is full.

Edited by wtdash, 09 October 2012 - 06:27 PM.


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:43 PM

No, they will fit exactly. It's the 90-94 Legos that have the smaller bolt pattern.

At any rate, that's probably overkill.

I would simply go to the junkyard and get a whole set off an Outback used.


In the OP he stated his car IS an Outback, Jus' Sayin'

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:15 PM

'95 is the the legacy w/the 'trim'; '96 got the body lift, suspension and 205/70R-15's.

'95 PICS HERE.

Edited by wtdash, 09 October 2012 - 09:24 PM.


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 10:14 PM

'95 is the the legacy w/the 'trim'; '96 got the body lift, suspension and 205/70R-15's.

'95 PICS HERE.


Ohhhhhh. Learn something new every day. Must have been where the tire shop slipped also.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 10:32 PM

Must have been where the tire shop slipped also.


Good point....I was wondering that too.....if the tire dealer 'sold the stock tire size' they didn't look up the year....

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 08:30 PM

Alright. Today I successfully put outback rims and 205/70-15 tires on many legacy l and I was wondering, since my stock tires were 185/60-14, how badly will my speedometer be affected and how hard will it be to correct???

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 08:49 PM

According to one calculator site I use, your actual speed will be 15.7% faster than your speedometer reading. When speedo shows 60mph you'll be doing 69.4!!! :burnout:

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 09:36 PM

So I should get better fuel mileage too xD. The engine will be turning less rpm's while the speed is upped.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 09:48 PM

Theoretically, yes, but the engine also has to work harder to move the car now. So will use more fuel to do the same work as before.
Also you have to figure the difference in the odometer reading, which will now show fewer miles than you actually traveled.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 09:50 PM

So I should get better fuel mileage too xD. The engine will be turning less rpm's while the speed is upped.


That's the theory. But then the engine could be working outside it's "power vs efficiency" zone. You might be lucky and the engine will handle the required power fine and return you some good economy. But if you're cruising with the throttle open further than what you used to do with the stock sized tyres then you're using more fuel over all, even if your revs have dropped by 500rpm (big difference!)

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 09:58 PM

Actually I did notice something interesting. You would think it shouldn't work this way, but I noticed my car moves along better and steers better with these tires. :/


Oh yeah. And what will I have to do to fix the speedometer difference issue???

Edited by soobie_newbie67, 12 October 2012 - 10:00 PM.


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Posted 13 October 2012 - 06:58 AM

Actually I did notice something interesting. You would think it shouldn't work this way, but I noticed my car moves along better and steers better with these tires. :/


Oh yeah. And what will I have to do to fix the speedometer difference issue???


New tires always feel better.

You could paint new numbers on the bezel. ;)

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 09:32 AM

Can't I just use a speedometer sending unit from an outback that uses 205/70-15 tires? Or do I have to go to the dealer and have it calibrated?

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 03:35 PM

Bumping for an answer please

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 06:31 PM

What you'll find is that Mr Fuji swapped the speedo drive gear in the gearbox and that the outback instrument cluster is calibrated the same.

What you could look into is a pulse modulator that modifies the signal from the reed switch at the gearbox. I'm 99% sure your subi doesn't have a speedo cable, which means it's all electronic and easier to play with ;) Unfortunately I don't know of a kit that does the job as I've not had the need to ever do this so far - I've only heard about it on the forums.

Hope this helps

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 08:16 PM

Well. On Monday I'm gonna call the dealer and see if they can calibrate it. I downloaded a speedometer app on my phone and found out I'm doing 65 @ 60 on the dash. Around town no problems through. Doing 36 @ 35 on the dash.

#25 soobie_newbie67

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 01:23 PM

What you'll find is that Mr Fuji swapped the speedo drive gear in the gearbox and that the outback instrument cluster is calibrated the same.

What you could look into is a pulse modulator that modifies the signal from the reed switch at the gearbox. I'm 99% sure your subi doesn't have a speedo cable, which means it's all electronic and easier to play with ;) Unfortunately I don't know of a kit that does the job as I've not had the need to ever do this so far - I've only heard about it on the forums.

Hope this helps

Cheers

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Well I hope your right. I called the dealer and the service guy told me it has a speedometer cable. I don't believe him. I couldn't find a cable anywhere.




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