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#26 zstamp19

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:17 AM

Thanks grossgary did you find those on car-parts.com? I will be calling some people today I guess. Woo!

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:18 AM

Yea KY doesn't have any Emissions test so its really not a big deal. But I am going to look at those other engines.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:25 AM

I saw there was a 95 in MT sterling as well but it says one of the heads is busted. I'm not sure what kind of work that would entail

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:29 AM

Also the 96 2.2 on there from berea I believe I know the guy that is selling it I almost bought but didn't because I was told that a 2.2 wouldn't work in my car at the time. He was giving me a way better deal so I may try and call him today and see if that is the same engine.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:49 AM

right that website.

look for legacy and impreza engines - they both had 2.2's during the years you need and they are identical engines even if junk yards don't know it or don't think they work. same exact engine. they only know what the computer tells them and don't want an angry customer, they've never swapped a subaru engine before.

keep in mind you need the exhaust manifold for anything 1996 or later...just keep an eye on the engine list i typed up earlier - it's all there what you need to know.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:54 AM

Ok I will check and make sure this guy has the manifold for the 2.2 out a 97 I found. $350 and he is delivering it to my house. That is if he has the manifold

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:55 AM

And thanks for all your help you all have saved me some time and probably a lot of money.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 10:10 AM

ok so the 97 has the egr the manifold:headbang: It did come from an automatic but that shouldn't be to big of a deal. I am going to pick it up tomorrow and probably try and put it in the next weekend. I will keep everyone updated on the process. But after I get put in we celebrate.:drunk:

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 10:33 AM

oh good. a 97 EJ22 you'll need the exhaust header, are you getting that too or need to find one?

auto/manual doesn't matter. in 1995 you can tell which ones have EGR or not by whether it's auto or manual...but later years don't have that distinction so it doesn't tell you anything. auto/manual EJ22's are all identical, same engine...you can even swap the ECU's, that doesn't even matter!

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:11 AM

yea he is going to get me the header and everything its not currently on the engine but he is going to take it out of the car that the engine came out of. and throw it in with it.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:44 PM

Just be aware that a '97 EJ22 is an "interference engine"--if that's any concern to you.

Good luck!

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 08:56 AM

Ok so I finally got my engine and I'm getting ready to put it in this weekend. I have replaced the timing belt, pulleys, water pump new head gaskets, valve cover gaskets. My question is I'm now getting all my fluids and I was going to pick up what I thought was just a single serpentine belt for the car to run the a/c and all the other accessories that just bolt on to this engine.
The guys at Autozone don't always have right info so my question is. I have a 97 2.2 I am putting into the car (not the one pictured on the last page) how do those belts work? I ask this because my 2.5 has a tensioner pulley on the front of the engine to right of the main pulley. The 2.2 just has the main Pulley so how do I adjust tension and all of that? Has anyone ran into this before in switching from 2.5 to 2.2?



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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:58 PM

there are 2 belts, one for thepower steering and the alt, that adjustment is in the alt bracket.

and one for the AC compressor, that adjustment is in thetensioner pulley on thefront of the engine.

 

both / all of the above from the ej25 will bolt on to your new ej22.



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Posted 21 March 2013 - 12:16 PM

Cool I'm sure I'll figure it out once I get the EJ25 out



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Posted 25 March 2013 - 07:03 AM

Ok I need a little bit of help again. We got the engines swapped out and everything is hooked up. But the engine will not start. It will turn over when you turn the key but will not start. I can smell gas so I know its getting fuel but it seems like there is no spark. I have replaced the spark plugs HGK's so I know thats not the problem. My plug wires seem to be fine as well. So could it be a fuse or something else? Give me some of your ideas to check when I get home tonight. Thanks



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Posted 25 March 2013 - 09:47 AM

Anybody?



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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:36 AM

the timing is off. this is the most common cause of a no start after major engine work.

 

did you use the correct timing marks?

 

NOT the ARROWS, NEVER the ARROWS.

 

the hash mark on the front edge of the cam sprockets.

and the hash mark on the rear of the crank sprocket.

double check.

 

when the crank sprocket is in the correct position, the crank keyway will be down in the 6 oclock position.

 

did you replace the cam seals?

did you get the correct sprocket on the driver side?

if you removed the intake manifold, double check the wire connectors.



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Posted 25 March 2013 - 01:10 PM

The timing is correct I went through it achecked everything several times. It is not the timing. It has to be something else. When we put the timing light on the car we got no light when trying to start it which means you have no spark coming through your wires. This is wear my problem lies. I just don't know where else I need to check



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Posted 25 March 2013 - 07:31 PM

crank sensor triggers the spark.

cam sensor triggers the fuel.

 

check the crank sensor, coil connectors and the the wire feeding the coil.






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