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#1 franklinstower

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:06 PM

I am putting together a frank for my Westy. I already have a '92 EJ22 in there now, but want more power/torque. I currently have a 97 EJ25D that I have put new rings in and I have a set of '93 EJ22 heads going to the shop for a valve grind and new stem seals. So rather than buying individual seals for my build from the dealer, I was going to buy a complete gasket set for the EJ22. I found a complete Gasket set from Evergreen tht is about $65 and includes all the seals. It even looks like the cam and crank seals are brown.
Q. 1 - Anyone have experience with the Evergreen Kit? is it okay, leaked immediately, etc.
Q. 2 - Is the rear main seal the same on the EJ25 and EJ22
Q. 3 - Head gasket thickness - I am going to use the cometic hybrid head gasket and I believe I can order any thickness I need. What is the thickness of the stock '97 EJ25 HG? I want to keep compression reasonable to run nothing more than 91 octane. I need a head gasket atleast as thick as the stock size.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:19 PM

All of hese questions have been answered.Search around .

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 06:25 PM

All of hese questions have been answered.Search around .


thanks for the help :-\

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:50 PM

I use Subaru OEM gaskets and seals. I suggest you do the same, except for maybe the headgaskets; for me, it's not worth the cost savings only to have to tear it down again. The special Cometic headgaskets don't need drilling, but I can't vouch for their longevity.

The rear main seal is the same. If you already have a "brown" Viton seal that's not leaking it might be best to leave it, as installing it correctly is difficult.

I measured the thickness of the EJ25D gasket 11044AA610 at 1.5mm uncompressed. I'd guess compressed it will be 1.4mm or so.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:52 PM

Here's the list of parts I bought when I did my frankie.

800406140 oil separator bolt (qty 5)
800406150 oil separator bolt (qty 1)
11831AA210 oil separator cover (steel)

806786040 rear main seal
806733030 front crank seal
10991AA001 oil pump o-ring
11044AA610 MLS head gasket 1.5mm (qty 2)
14035AA290 intake manifold seal (qty 2)
13294AA012 rocker cover gasket (qty 2)
13271AA051 rocker cover seals (qty 6)
806732150 camshaft seal (qty 2)
806946030 cam cap o-ring (qty 2)

13028AA102 timing belt
13068AA051 timing belt hyd tensioner
13069AA037 timing belt tensioner pulley
13085AA080 timing belt toothed pulley
13073AA142 timing belt smooth pulley (qty 2)

15208AA031 oil filter
21111AA007 water pump
21114AA051 water pump gasket
21200AA072 thermostat
11060AA071 thermostat cover (plastic)
21236AA010 thermostat gasket

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 01:08 PM

Thank you very much Ryan.

When I did my last ej22 re-seal, I used all OEM brown gaskets that I got from the dealer, The crank seals are doing great, but the cam seals and o-rings are leaking.

I will do more research.

Paul

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:30 PM

I use Subaru OEM gaskets and seals. I suggest you do the same, except for maybe the headgaskets; for me, it's not worth the cost savings only to have to tear it down again. The special Cometic headgaskets don't need drilling, but I can't vouch for their longevity.

The rear main seal is the same. If you already have a "brown" Viton seal that's not leaking it might be best to leave it, as installing it correctly is difficult.

I measured the thickness of the EJ25D gasket 11044AA610 at 1.5mm uncompressed. I'd guess compressed it will be 1.4mm or so.


I can. I have the recommended .040 HG from cometic, 17k miles since my build and I flog the piss out of my car. No seepage to be seen. For all of my other gaskets (Except rear main) I used the Evergreen kit from Mizumo Auto on eBay. I used a Subaru rear main and steel oil separator plate from the dealership.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 03:31 PM

I can. I have the recommended .040 HG from cometic, 17k miles since my build and I flog the piss out of my car. No seepage to be seen. For all of my other gaskets (Except rear main) I used the Evergreen kit from Mizumo Auto on eBay. I used a Subaru rear main and steel oil separator plate from the dealership.


I thought you needed the .051 thick gasket which from what I summized from searching was the stock ej25D thickness?

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 03:56 PM

I thought you needed the .051 thick gasket which from what I summized from searching was the stock ej25D thickness?


Only for the 96 which had flat tops and cleared the deck. The 97+ had dished pistons.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:53 PM

Only for the 96 which had flat tops and cleared the deck. The 97+ had dished pistons.


NO! All of the 25D's require the thicker gasket. Dished or not the piston crests above the block. The Outer 1/4" of the piston is still THE SAME HEIGHT as the '96 flat top pistons.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:14 PM

NO! All of the 25D's require the thicker gasket. Dished or not the piston crests above the block. The Outer 1/4" of the piston is still THE SAME HEIGHT as the '96 flat top pistons.

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Well I'm running .040s with no issues.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:08 PM

there must be an option for a thinner gasket on some EJ25D's there was a sticker on the gaskets i got that said i had to measure my gasket, there was a .026" and .053" my 99 had the thicker gasket.

this is what it said on www.subarupartsforyou.com for the 2 headgasket kits.

HEAD GASKET SET for 1997-1998 (produced upto 9 97) Legacy 2.5 ONLY includes Head gskts, plenum gskts, exhaust gskts, & valve cover set (NOTE SOME 1997 & 1998 MODELS MAY USE ALTERNATE VCG SET...EMAIL A VIN # TO VERIFY)

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HEAD GASKET SET for 1998-1999 (produced after 10 97) Legacy 2.5 ONLY includes Head gskts, plenum gskts, exhaust gskts, & valve cover set



i dunno, i'd stick with the thicker one, just cuz i dont wanna risk it. LOL

Edited by xbeerd, 11 January 2013 - 06:58 PM.





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