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#1 pos

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:32 PM

Hi

I have seen a lot of posts regarding water on the floor. However... None of the answers applies to my problem.

B t w, this is my first post at the forum...


I have a Subaru Legacy 2012. I just (2 days ago) noticed very much water under the rubber carpet at the driver side. I first thought is was snow from the boots as it must take very long time for it to try as the floor is covered by a rubber carpet. And as you use the car heavily it feeds more snow/water to the floor. But that assumption seems to not be correct.

I dried the car a little bit yesterday. Today I went to the car-wash for a manual wash. I was quite hard to the car using high pressure under and in the wheel-wells. Afterwards it was very much water on the driver side (front) again. The passenger side and the back seat was completely dry under the rubber carpets. Only the driver front side is wet. Where does it come in ????????

I have removed the wiper arms and the big piece of plastic (is it called "cowl"?). As far as I can see there is no dirt or so. There are no drain hoses on the Legacy as the water goes right out on both sides behind the inner fender and comes out under the car just between the wheel-well and the rocker panel. It seems a small bucket of water on the wind shield comes out where it should...

The water is clear and seems to come from the outside, p r o b a b l y from the wind shield drain. But I am not sure. Behind the inner plastic fender (driver side where the problem is) there is a rubber gasket and a wire to the hood opener and a hard plastic seal of some sort which I do not know if it leads into the car or into the frame (for corrosion protection maybe).

How many holes are there for potential water in my case? Could it be the door opening after all?

Any clues would be very much appreciated

Tnx in advance
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 01:18 PM

Being a 2012 I am sure it would go under warranty. I would say take it to a dealer. They should find and fix the leak. Also if your carpet got wet it will mold, which is undesirable in a brand new car.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 01:19 PM

Does it have a sunroof? Very common for sunroof drain tubes to pop off and the water drains down the A pillar to the floor. The drain could also be clogged. Usually the drain tubes come out in the wheel well but on some cars they drain into the rocker panels. If the rocker panel drain is clogged the water eventually overflows into the floor.
It could also be a clogged drain in the bottom of the drivers door. Water will back up and overflow into the floor area from behind the bottom edge of the door panel.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:00 PM

No sun roof

And i have not seen any water on the door step

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:43 PM

In that case, you should probably pull the carpet back and set up a water hose to spray the front of the car (have a friend help) while you lok under the dash for water trickling down the firewall.

I misread earlier and thought it said 2002. 2012 should still be under warranty, as cCupedUpSoobie said. Might be best to just take it to the dealer and have them fix it.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:42 PM

In that case, you should probably pull the carpet back and set up a water hose to spray the front of the car (have a friend help) while you lok under the dash for water trickling down the firewall.

I misread earlier and thought it said 2002. 2012 should still be under warranty, as cCupedUpSoobie said. Might be best to just take it to the dealer and have them fix it.



Today I did that. I went with a friend to a car wash. I did not remove the carpet (only the loose rubber carpet on top). I was inside the car pressing my hand against the floor (to press the thick insulating material together) to try to feel the floor getting wet. My friend used high pressure water on and around the wind shield for 10 minutes. Still dry... The 5-10 minutes of high pressure around the driver door. Still dry... The (with the car on a lift) high pressure water from below. Still dry... 5 min high pressure water in the wheel arch (correct name?). Still dry...

????????

Can it still be snow and wet boots? The Subaru rubber carpet sucks as it ends precisely where all snow and water come of the boots... Maybe I should buy a thin rubber carpet, cut it and place it with overlapping from above down over the Subaru carpet.

Anyone that knows if there are longer rubber carpets with higher sides to buy. That fits exact in the Subaru on the driver side floor...

Tnx
Peo

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 08:20 PM

Rubber mats do tend to trap moisture under them and perhaps this is all that is happening. I don't know of any type of rubber floor may that is immune to this.
If you can pick up the mat and shake it out and place it on top of the passenger side floor mat when you exit the car, this will give moisture in the carpet a chance to evaporate out, especially during the day if the sun is out.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 08:34 PM

still under warranty, take it in.

i worked on a 2010 that had a stopped up drain. condensation from the heater core area was not able to drain and therefore dripped steadily into the car when the a/c was on, which comes on with defrost mode.

i pulled the drain hose, ran wire through it, reinstalled and it's been fine since. i did not notice any debris, bugs, anything come out, so it may have even been simply kinked. i suppose it could even leak if it wasn't fitted tight or was disturbed.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:26 PM

I agree with grossgary, take it to the dealer. That is what the warranty is for.

Good luck.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:44 PM

Hi

I will probably let the dealer take care of this. But now I have dried the floor with a heater plus a Woods DS28 dehumidifier in the car. So first I will install these that will come within a few days....

http://www.weatherte...ner-digitalfit/

If it will not be better, it's not snow on the boots, and I will let the dealer take care of it during the service that I have to do within a month.


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:01 PM

Heeheehee...yeah.

One morning it was only 6 degrees above zero and yet there was quite a lot of liquid precipitation on the rear of the vehicle. It seemed to be attracted to the fuel tank.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:13 PM

Now I have installed the weather tech "FloorLiner Digital fit" mats. Its fit is REALLY good. Perfect fit! And no snow or water from the boots will slip through this plastic cover mat.

I really recommend these as the original Subaru rubber mats really sucks. Especially on the driver side as so much snow will come of the boots outside the rubber mat.

If you have this problem. Dry the floor with a heater and/or a dehumidifier and apply these Weather Tech mats. You will not be disappointed !


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Posted 27 January 2013 - 05:39 PM

A follow up on this if anyone is interested

Problem gone !

More water than you think come from the snow on the boots. Now that I have better mats I am a little bit shocked. Even though I remove snow from my boots before entering the car, still there will be a lot of water on the plastic mat after a few days. And without these mats (i.e with the original rubber mats), most of it should have come in under the mat and stayed there until spring if not noted and taken care of.

So the conclusion is that the weathertech mats really rocks http://www.weatherte...ner-digitalfit/ and the Subaru original rubber mats really sucks and should not even have been made. The purpose of making a rubber mat must be to resist water which Subaru obviously have missed.

Edited by pos, 27 January 2013 - 05:42 PM.


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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:19 PM

WeatherTech to the rescue! Glad to hear the better mats fixed the problem. I knew you could get mats that style for many trucks and SUVs but didnt know anyone made them for any Subaru models. Thanks for posting the product link and follow up! :)




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