CrankyAl Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Hi friendly folks of the forum, I really boneheaded an easy job replacing cam and front crank seals today. Instead of reading and watching the proper videos, I took it upon myself to install al the seals to deep! I bottomed them all out instead of seating them even with the surfaces. They were installed that way with a bunch of permatex around each seal........then after cleaning and buying Subaru Stealership gaskets I installed them incorrectly. Bah Humbug!!! I don't believe that I could back them out without damage soooooo back to the Stealership I guess. I do have some Jago seals but they are probably Chinese. Miles Fox has a video I should have watched BEFORE I did the deed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberoo Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 what did you learn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrankyAl Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) UH, Do more research BEFORE I tackle a new Subaru repair. Also it costs more when I screw up, both time and money. Edited February 22, 2013 by CrankyAl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l75eya Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Live and learn!! It was George Harrison that said "With every mistake, we must surely be learning". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrankyAl Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 Well, reading the forum in the past, I have read many times to look how the old seals were installed and install the new ones the same......so I did. Who ever worked on the engine before installed the seals deep like I did thats why I installed them the same way. Even bottomed out they are only about a 16th of an inch lower than the lip, but I watched a video from Miles Fox that stated if you bottom them out it cuts off an oil hole or something of that nature. They also were coated on the outer edges with permatex, and that I why I posted an earlier question about using some kind of sealant when installing the new seals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 You have to check the design of the seal pocket you are installing any given seal into in order to determine how the seal should be set. With the older Subaru stuff (pre-2000) you generally set them flush with the casting and not to the full depth of the pocket to avoid covering the oil return hole provided for draining away excess oil. As for treating the edges of the seal - clean oil on the lip and nothing on the OD. These are rubber coated seals and do not require a sealant. If the seal fits too loosely I will often use a smear of loctite 248 - which is just the glue stick version of 242. It holds like a demon on the OD of seals. Often when attempting to remove them they tear half the rubber off the OD of the seal due to loctite bond. It's impressive. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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