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Stuck in 3rd Gear ! help - its finals week!

tranmission clutch gl wagon 1981

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#1 Kroaker23

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:02 PM

I have a huge problem. its finals week and my 81 gl wagon is stuck in 3rd gear. it would stick every once in a while in 4th for the past few weeks but now it wont come out of 3rd. the cable is still connected to the are on the bell housing. linkage pins seem there and cant see anything wrong with the linkage, other than it wont hardly budge.it still drives in 3rd, 2wd and 4 hi and lo work still. Is that a shift fork out of placement? is there anything I can do short of pulling the trans? also were can I get diagrams of the transmission internal R&R?

 

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:14 PM

Try going into neutral while in motion. Mine will sometimes get stuck in 4th if I come to a stop while in gear with clutch pedal pressed. Come to a stop in neutral.



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Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:49 PM

There are a few things it can be, but unfortunately they are all internal. Bent shift fork, seized shift rod or a bad synchro slider. You can try snapping the throttle open and close while driving so the car is jerking and pull back on the stick at the same time. It may come out, but unfortunately it will most likely stick again.



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:40 AM

ill have to try those again. are there rebuild kits available or parts or am I SOL and have to buy a new trans?



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:53 AM

I would get a used one. Cheaper that going rebuild and generally a safe bet.



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 09:27 AM

pull the detent spring and ball out on 3rd 4th shift fork and try working the shifter with out it in will give it less resistance and you may be able to work it out of gear carfull to not move it to far have fixed it this way before



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:29 PM

Is your shifter sloppy?



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 11:39 PM

it was not before. it is just stuck now. wont move much. I am thinking its a shift fork problem after the things ive read on here. going to take it out  and crack it open and see whats going on next week somtime. the clutch was worn before but im not sure if that has anything to do with it or not because i can still depress the clutch pedal a couple inches

 



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 10:16 AM

The steel part of the snycro gets burred and the slider go's over it and will not come back off if you look inside you will find a jamed up syncro has to be deburred i use a tiny stone on a dremel toll to do thiss. The burr will be on the top of the meatal syncro on the highest point of the tooth were it makes contact with brass syncro



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 02:17 PM

is that common of the syncro to get burrs? also does it need gaskets or just silicone to seal the trans?



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 02:49 PM

You want to use Loctite 1104 or red anaerobic sealer/gasket eliminator to seal the case. Burring is not that common unless abused.



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Posted 21 May 2013 - 10:11 AM

Have only seen it 3 times in 15 years one on rally car with 2.2 turbo stuck in 3rd one on 81 gl wagon stuck in 1rst and one deul range 5 speed stuck in first all had to come apart to be fixed it happens from trying to go into to low of a gear at to high of speed






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