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Tranny gurus, I have a question.


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#1 espey_16

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 04:18 PM

I have to r&r the tranny in my dads 91 Legacy wagon. Its an automatic. Yesterday I pulled an auto tranny from a 90 legacy sedan and when I got it home I noticed the diff dipstick on the 90 tranny was taller than the 91 tranny. So my question is, what are the differences between these two trannys, and is it a direct swap? Both trannys have a rear gear ratio of 4.111. Thanks guys.

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 05:31 PM

as long as the years you quoted are correct, it is a direct swap.

no issues.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 05:38 PM

Ok cool thank you.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 04:44 PM

When pulling the tranny, are you supposed to remove the torque converter at the same time? I've never pulled an auto before. I got the tranny out last night, but the input shaft is still sticking out of the tc. The tranny I pulled from the junk yard came out easy.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 04:53 PM

Yes you should remove the torque converter with the transmission.
Search here for how to properly seat the torque converter (there is a good thread with pictures somewhere on this forum) before trying to install the transmission. You need to get the converter seated properly first, otherwise it will damage the fluid pump in the transmission, and your "new" trans will be a boat anchor.

Also do not drop the converter when removing it from the flex plate! It is only partially supported by the pilot stub in the center.

Edited by Fairtax4me, 06 June 2013 - 04:57 PM.


#6 espey_16

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 08:48 PM

How am I supposed to get that shaft out of the torque converter? I'm about ready to have my dad go get a new one.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 09:33 PM

This is my problem.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 10:44 PM

Nice!
That stayed in the new trans correct?
Vice grip the end, smack the vice grips upward with a big hammer.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 11:42 PM

Ohhh nice!! Never seen that one yet!

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 12:17 AM

Yikes.

 

Nothing to do but pull on that sucka.



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Posted 07 June 2013 - 12:29 AM

Yeah, it didn't stick in the tc from the doner car.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 12:32 AM

You can swap out the unstuck TC and input shaft.



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Posted 07 June 2013 - 08:43 AM

I could, but my dad had this one installed along with a new flexplate a year or so ago. Mabey I should just do that.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 09:55 AM

oh the wonderfull 4eat !



#15 espey_16

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:44 PM

I got the input shaft out of the tc, but I cant get it to seat in the tranny. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, I've been reading this thread http://www.ultimates...rque converter over and over again for the last 2 hours and can't get the tc past the first stop. What's goin on here?

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 11:12 AM

i spin it and push inwards gentaly take a lot of time somtime to get it to seat make shure tc extetion is cliped to tc



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Posted 09 June 2013 - 11:20 AM

Yeah I tried again for a couple hours yesterday, still no dice. I don't know what the deal is.

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 11:25 AM

take it back out try the shaft in the torque make shure will go in off the trans also is shaft right way round ? check closly all splines for damge check sealing rings close for damge you could try install without shaft in trans just to see whats hanging up check the spline one fixed stator spline easy to damge the splines Try and figure out what part of its hanging up



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Posted 09 June 2013 - 02:33 PM

Ok yeah ill try to install it without the shaft and see if it'll go on then go from there. Thanks for the idea.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:11 AM

any luck ?



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Posted 10 June 2013 - 12:04 PM

No, wouldn't even go on without the extention. I wonder if I messed up the tc when I removed the tranny. Might have to go get the tc off the car I got the tranny from.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 08:36 AM

Did you check fixed stator spline the large one of front of trans look very close for craks or deformation sounds like its damaged



#23 espey_16

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 11:53 AM

Yeah, everything looked good, I think it might be something in the tc itself. Friday I'm gonna go get the tc from the donor car and see if that will work. If not, ill return that tranny and pull another one. The right way this time though.




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