heartless Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) Did a bunch of searching, and found lots of discussions asking about replacing the "staked" u-joints on the Legacy/Outbacks, but it seems like no one has actually done it to provide feedback on the job? Also found several links to various reman shaft suppliers, This one: http://www.provenforce.com/driveline/subaru_drivelines.html#Legacy looks like my best bet for a "reman" replacement (cost wise) and they are reasonably close to me, too... Saw the reman place out of Texas, but their prices are higher than the above, and much farther away, so would take longer... And the link for the Rockford Driveline replacement joints w/instructions: http://www.rockforddriveline.com/replacem.htm The 95 Legacy I am getting a new/used tranny put into has a "notchy" rear u-joint that is going to cause problems - of course the shop says "we cant service that, would have to replace the whole thing" - to the tune of over $700 (they were told to put the existing driveshaft back in "as is" for the time being) Carrier bearing seems to have a bit of slop starting as well...possibly due to the notchy rear joint causing extra stress? Looking at car-part.com, the driveshafts are listed as separate front & rear sections...and of course the front section seems to be almost non-existant...and I would rather do the whole driveline as one unit to avoid future issues... Has ANYONE actually tried using the Rockford u-joints??? either themselves, or taken to a machine shop for install? Darn car is going to cost me a ton of money - but should be pretty rock solid when it is finally ready to roll.... Edited October 25, 2013 by heartless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I have never rebuilt a driveshaft but i can lend what i know: Toyota u-joints will work. The ujoints are contained to the rear half of the shaft, and the carrier is contained to the front. I once had a shop rebuild my toyota camper shaft, which was 2 pieces and 3 joints, for about 400 bucks including parts and labor. From what i understand there is a tool to ream out the stake, and then a circlip is used to replace it I once gave away an ea82 driveshaft to a certain individial with a cetain xt, and when i got hte car from him, i inherited my old driveshadt with GREASE ZERKS! yes, someone installed greaseable u-joints in an ea82 shaft. BTW i got your message and the driveshaft i have is in great shape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregoncoast Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) I believe my mechanic has done this successfully, or was about to do it. We are looking at replacing the drive shaft on the race car and so he was working on it to save us some bucks. I will check and get back.... PS I raced a 1200 mile race in Baja with a notchy driveline and then drove the car back...so you might have more time than you think with normal driving. Edited October 25, 2013 by oregoncoast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presslab Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 On my EA82 I installed Duralast 2-0430DL joints. I think the Legacy ones are the same. I needed to grind a little bit from the inside of each yoke so the clips would sit flat. With a small press it's not hard to push the old joints out past the staking. With the new clips and a little Loctite 609 the new joints aren't going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivans imports Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 i changed a set last week I use part # Neapco 1-0430 ujiont for nissan works good is a real pain to change but doabble took me forever to find that ujiont. I use a air chisel with ujiont head on it works well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 Thank you everyone for the replies. Miles - sending you another pm about that driveshaft... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodsWagon Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 On my EA82 I installed Duralast 2-0430DL joints. I think the Legacy ones are the same. I needed to grind a little bit from the inside of each yoke so the clips would sit flat. With a small press it's not hard to push the old joints out past the staking. With the new clips and a little Loctite 609 the new joints aren't going anywhere. Yup, you need to flatten out the inside of the yokes a bit for the clip to fit on the Rockford joints as well. I use a die grinder to clean up the staking marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Ivan where do you get the Neapco 1-0430 ujiont. I did several searches and did not find that part # listed. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 Ivan where do you get the Neapco 1-0430 ujiont. I did several searches and did not find that part # listed. Thanks That could be a Canadian manufacturer? Ivan is in Canada... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Rock Auto and a few other listed Neapco but did not have the specific #. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presslab Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Yup, you need to flatten out the inside of the yokes a bit for the clip to fit on the Rockford joints as well. I use a die grinder to clean up the staking marks. I had rebuild my driveshaft a few years ago with Rockford joints. I still had some vibration and one of the problems was that clips were different widths! I replaced them all with the Duralast joints which were generally higher quality, and the clips were the same width. I ordered a couple CV boots from them recently, and they charged me $27 for shipping. Anyway, I'm peeved with Rockford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivans imports Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I got them thru gillbert auto parts bought the last 10 in canada hoping they make more I think the duralast ones is usa equivelant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Did Has ANYONE actually tried using the Rockford u-joints??? either themselves, or taken to a machine shop for install?... i've done it, i'm sure you saw me post if you searched. cut the old ones out, fit the rockford joints in. it's fairly straight forward but a little bit of an art rather than just "remove - replace"....be careful of the needle bearings in the new joint, they won't want to go in easily/smoothly/straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 working with Miles on getting the one has from his parts 95. May go ahead and get a replacement anyway - just to try it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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