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#26 Uberoo

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 05:10 PM

That is gonna be damn heavy.



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 11:49 PM

You know me. I gotta pick on it.
And I had many a beers before I wrote that :)
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#28 Gloyale

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 12:57 PM

That is gonna be damn heavy.

 

One would think.  But keep in mind this won't be road legal......so it will have none of the following

 

Windshield

Door glass

Rear side glass

Trunk lid

Hood (it'll have plastic panel "hood" covering engine)

Interior

Dashboard(minimal instruments)

HVAC/heatercontrols

Heater Core

 

And oh yeah......there is basically no roof.

 

Hmm.....It might need a roll cage??? Maybe



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 02:43 PM

Have you considered just building a buggy off the frame?use a subaru hood/grill/lights for the front.you will need a rollbar/cage because that frame is heavy and you dont want it crushing you.That or have your body more or less a shell,no glass,no doors,no dash other than oil pressure and coolant temp..



#30 Gloyale

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 02:59 PM

.That or have your body more or less a shell,no glass,no doors,no dash other than oil pressure and coolant temp..

 

That's pretty much all the body will be.  Although, It will have some strutctual element to it.

 

But like I said, it's gonna be half doors with no glass, no rear hatch and alot of other stuff trimmed out.

 

 

As it sits, the frame isn't THAT heavy.  The Trooper frame gets it's strength from boxing, it's not actually that thick except in a few spots.  The F-250 frame rails are heavy yes.....but they basically ARE the lift kit, and will add enough strength to allow me to take out some structure from the unibody in the very back end.

 

I am shooting for a race weight of 2700 lbs or less.  Should be easy considering my lifted wagon weighs 3000+ and that's got a full wagon body and glass and interior.



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 03:16 AM

My hatch weighed 2500 lbs.Adding the T case,bigger tires,and the assorted steel added 250-300 lbs up from about 2250 lbs.Even though the T case and the bigger tires made it better it still felt abit heavy especially the front.It just seems like in the subaru world you could make something stronger and lighter by building a subframe formed to whatever car you want...I dunno I'm sure it will be cool when your done, but as you said it might not be what you want.



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 10:06 PM

So I got some more done today.

 

Working on the rear suspension set-up.  I was gonna try some craziness mounting the diff ABOVE the torsion tube.....but that wasn't looking good, so I kept it simple EA81 all the way.  With the exception of the Legacy rear diff mount piece and the F-250 Rear shocks that is.

 

 

Keep in mind this is all first stage welded......welded strong enough to support itself for building......but the junctions between all the C- channel pieces will all get gussets later.

 

I also mounted the steering rack into the front piece of the frame.  Pics later.



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 02:14 PM

Now that it is all starting to come together I can make sense of it haha.  Can't wait to see it done.



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 12:28 PM

Here's a mock up.  Keep in mind here the rear torsion is cranked to max.....but the front torsions are barely even threaded in.....so the front is sitting WAAAY lower than it will be when done.  Although it will have a bit of forward rake still when done.....at least the frame will......the body will be a bit more level when mounted.

 

Next to ol" T-Bone for scale

 

And here is a clue as to what body and how it will be mounted to the frame.  Anybody care to guess???



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 11:27 PM

Looks like 3rd gen gl wagon is going to sit on it. Right? The 1st and 2nd gen's torsion bars don't mount like that and they don't have those bends.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 04:39 AM

This build is looking like a really good candidate for this thread: http://www.pirate4x4...-hack-jobs.html



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 12:05 PM

Looks like 3rd gen gl wagon is going to sit on it. Right? The 1st and 2nd gen's torsion bars don't mount like that and they don't have those bends.

 

Close.....but no.

 

Not a wagon.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 12:16 PM

This build is looking like a really good candidate for this thread: http://www.pirate4x4...-hack-jobs.html

Hmmmm........

 

I'll take it as a compliment.  Don't think it was meant that way.....but that's how I'll take it.

 

This think is being built to thrash on at events.

 

So I can save my road legal trail rig EA81 wagon for trails.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:21 PM

No work on the rig itself today.

 

But I did manage to turn the rest of an old factory Rubicon transfer gaurd and into a Diff Protector.

 

Holes for drain plugs and mounting to the front portion still to come.  I'll be combining it with an EJ series diff mount craddle to make a fully armored rear diff and driveline.

 

Here's the start.  The first pic has a crazy optical illusion but it's more or less centered and right angle to the diff.

 

 

 

 



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:10 PM

Hmmmm........

 

I'll take it as a compliment.  Don't think it was meant that way.....but that's how I'll take it.

Not meant as an insult or a compliment. Hack fab can be a lot of fun, but don't be surprised if other's see it for the pile of welded together scrap it is and judge you because of it.

 

I have often slapped something together and said "F it, good enough" but it isn't stuff I'd want my name on.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:35 PM

Close.....but no.

 

Not a wagon.

has to be a Coupe, sedan, or xt/xt-6 then.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:36 PM

Not meant as an insult or a compliment. Hack fab can be a lot of fun, but don't be surprised if other's see it for the pile of welded together scrap it is and judge you because of it.

 

I have often slapped something together and said "F it, good enough" but it isn't stuff I'd want my name on.

 

Yeah,,,,,,I get it.

 

Some people think if you didn't spend alot of money on pretty CNC stuff that it's junk.

 

I am building it like this because it's what I've got.

 

My money goes to my family, my kids, and my future.  I can only have fun 4 wheelin' if it's not taking away from my real financial responsibilities. 

 

So I am proud of this build.....and I will be happy to put my name on the welds, the structure, and so on.  It absolutely is a pile of scrap.  And taking scrap and turning it into badass rumproast wheeler is the whole point. 

 

Anybody can throw money and bolt on parts at a Jeep or Yota or whatever.   It takes real thought, work, and soul to make something out of nothing.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:44 PM

has to be a Coupe, sedan, or xt/xt-6 then.

 

Not a Coupe

 

Not a Sedan

 

So......that leaves only one 80's wedgie of goodness possibility left then doesn't it?


Edited by Gloyale, 16 November 2013 - 07:20 PM.


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Posted 16 November 2013 - 09:41 AM

BRAT!



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Posted 16 November 2013 - 10:16 AM

BRAT!

 

I wouldn't dream of molesting a Brat like this is gonna be. 

 

No....3rd Gen.........lightweight body.



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Posted 16 November 2013 - 10:28 AM

Damn...fair enough



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Posted 16 November 2013 - 02:07 PM

All it comes down to is you stretching your fab skills to the limit. I have seen plenty of people take a Toyota and bootyfab the spoob out of it. Its all about growing. People are used to seeing professional fabbed bullshit all over. They hardly ever see all the process that it took to get spoob right the first time. You'll learn from the mistakes you make here and will change them later.
I can't wait to see it run.
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Posted 16 November 2013 - 07:37 PM

This build is looking like a really good candidate for this thread: http://www.pirate4x4...-hack-jobs.html

 

OMMAAAGOODNESS

 

I spent 5 hours laughing my farking drunk arse off looking at that thread last night.

 

I DEFINATELY take it as a compliment.  I can only hope to be honored in those hallowed halls.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 03:50 AM

Okay......so it may or may not come out as cool as this...... (probaly not)

 

XT6lifted-1.jpg

 

But it for sure will be a HELL of alot better than this....

 

GhettoXt6_zps1db4bf23.jpeg

 

GhettoXt6_2_zpsaa303ec7.jpeg

 

No offense if this is your car....but what the???


Edited by Gloyale, 17 November 2013 - 03:55 AM.


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 11:39 AM

Okay......so it may or may not come out as cool as this...... (probaly not)

 

XT6lifted-1.jpg

Make sure to use better tires than he did, I have it on video failing pretty miserably with the Thornbirds.  

And so you know.  The guy who owned this complained about complete lack of visibility.  







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