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#76 Gloyale

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 10:51 AM

SWEET! sorry to clutter here... but the coilovers i see hanging in the rear wheel wells in this picture... what ever happened to them? im interested in buying if the price is right...

 

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They are junk.

 

One's bent.....the other has no rebound or dampening

 

Both had the springs cut down about 2" for a ghetto lowride job back when it was a car.

 

more betterer! That alignment is gonna help you in the long run.
Can't wait to see it rollin.
When is that comp you are getting ready for?
cheers, me

 

It's on;y forward from where it had been about 2".  Just enough.

 

I thought it was Early may......but they had an early event in Februaury at the same location.......so I don't if there will be another in May.  Gonna just keep pluggin along.



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Posted 14 March 2014 - 09:03 PM

A little more today.  Hard to get anything done.....every time I get set to weld....the wind picks up.....a 1mph breeze is enough to completely blow away my shielding gasses........aaaaarrrrrrrgggghhhhhh!!!

 

WARNING! THE WELDS YOU ARE ABOUT TO SEE ARE CRAP.................and will be blasted over with the 220v machine, in the still air of a nice warm shop.......once I get this thing trailer ready with steering..LOL

 

 

Her first flex.........isn't it adorable.......

 

Drivers side rear wheel well clearanced......this is almost completely flexed out......the bumpstops will hit before it touches the body now.

 

 

I cut the outer skin away, and pounded the inner fenderwell until it met up with the new edge, then welded.....ugly.....damn wind.....but it's good enough.

 



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Posted 16 March 2014 - 11:48 AM

Steering and front sheet metal removal.

 

Front Fender.  Took a bit too much maybe?  Whatever......She's ready for 35s!!!

 

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Notice anything missing?  upper radiator support, and hood latch gone.......Radiator will be in the back seat....So no need to have support there......Hood will be a piece of sheetmetal or fiberglass and close with pins.........backpack blower snorkel piece mocked up. :)  It will be outside the fender when installed.

 

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Longest steering coupler I've ever made.  Turbine shaft from 4EAT trans worked perfect....

 

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And finally.......The lump..... 88 XT N/A w/ Spider intake.....Courtesy of WonderWedgie88 IIRC

 

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I know.....I know.......It should get an EJ.....but I like the N/A EA82 MPFI and the huge radiator capacity should keep it under control.

 

Besides......I want to keep it "stock" lol


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Posted 17 March 2014 - 11:48 AM

More work on the front end.  Bolted 2 of the 3 radius rod plate holes down to the frame.......had to make some curved pieces to leave access to the trans cross member bolts.

 

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And some work on the rear end.....These sliders will be multipurpose......Slide the rump roast end off of obstacles, form a frame for gas tank protection, gaurd at least part of the axles and inner cups when backing up, and will be anchors for the rear bumper/winch reciever hitch.  And it will stiffen the mounting point of the rear diff.  Only had enough steel to do one side so far.

 

Much more reinforcement will be added.  The gas tank gaurd, middle section part will be bolt in later so I can still drop the tank if needed.

 

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 11:51 AM

Ground Clearance!!!

 

 

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 10:38 AM

Attached the front end to the frame.

 

Donor plates are the original mounts from a Gen 1 A-bar......worked perfect here.

 

 

 

And a few reinforcemnets for the steering rack.

 

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Posted 09 April 2014 - 01:46 PM

Some more little things this last few weeks.

 

First...Engine and D/R 5spd installed w/ new clutch.  Fits nicely.  Don't let the Uppipe fool you......it's not going to be turbo'd...not with this engine anyhow......I just wanted the exhaust to not have to go under the engine.  It'll be a straight 2-1/4 pipe from there.

 

 

A little bit more work on the rear end frame/slider/bumper/gas gaurd.  Tererible pics........Passenger side completed........this rail runs from the rear end all the way up to the block at the OE "K" bar mount

 

 

 

these tie the frame/body/blocks and eventually the rear bumper into one unit. 

 

tight clearance on the pass side had to notch around the gas tank and vent lines.

 

 

 

Better views of what these rails actually do on the drivers side.....Since this is were the muffler would've been........this ones not welded in yet.

 

 

The hitch piece that will make the bottom of the bumper and the rear mount for the skid plate.....

 

 

 

And on the interior front..........Reinstalled the XT turbo pedal box........I was gonna use a regular GL one but it doesn't clear the XT column mounts :(  bummer.....(I wanted the spring loaded turbo pedal for my DD GL....Guess it wasn't meant to be)  XT steering wheel will get a floating DigiDash mounted atop.......Just for S&Gs really since I will have aftermarket gauges for Fuel/Temp/Oil.  I guess I'll need the VSS.....

 

 

Reinstalled most of the wiring harness.........not sure how this happened.....BUT I CUT OUT THE FUSE BOX!!!!...........WHAT THE HELL!!!!      Why did I do that?????  I must have been smokin crack 3 years ago when I parted this thing out.......damn.......That's gonna be some soldering.....I guess I really only need to give power to 4 or 5 circuits......most of the rest is unneeded at this point lol.

 

 

I also mocked up the T-case w/ the body installed .......I though I was going to need to cut and extend the tunnel.....but I was able to fit it perfectly with only a bit of hammering on the drives side.......sadly it's right where the seat rail bolts in so Im gonna fab a Trooper seat frame base onto the floor.......no pics of that stuff yet.

 

 

Next on the list........Radiator support, Battery tray, and finish reassembling transfer case........



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Posted 12 April 2014 - 11:05 AM

More work yesterday........unitl I ran out of wire in the MIG......dooh!!

 

Anyway........trimmed the rusty rotted Sunroof lip.........The velour window trim makes an excellent rubber edging to cover the cut edge.

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Prepped the floor for the Isuzu Trooper seat base.....Once this is installed.....an EA81 seat or trooper seat will bolt right in.......Not sure which I'll use yet.

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Radiator mocked up......The original seat back tabs are going to make ecxellent radiator lower supports........Also found a Battery tray.....I might use it.

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And more work on the rear end.  Got the all but the lower left rail inplace and welded in. 

Reinforced the drop portion of the diff mount/slider.

 

 

Trailer hitch/rear skid plate mount installed.  (old class II minivan hitch).  It's clear at this point I am not goin to bob the back end loke I had originally thought......I like the look of the complete car sitting up that high.  If all is correct the OE bumper will bolt back on over this......or I'll make something custom resembling the OE look.

 

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This is where I ran out of wire..

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 09:54 PM

Finished the rear shock mounts today.  Finally not bouncy.

 

 

And then started in on the Re-pinning of the 87 harness to match the 88+ engine loom.   1 pin stayed the same, and 6 others at least re-pinned in the same connector.  The rest will have to be cut/spliced into a matching 88 connector.

 



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Posted 16 April 2014 - 11:19 PM

Reassmebled the transfer case today with all new bearings.

 

Godddangit this thing is tricky to get to this point.....took 3 tries to find the right order......the book has pics of sections but no start to finish rebassembly proceedure.

 

The rear flange is larger than the subaru drivelines.........the other 2 are the same as subie.  So I redrilled this rear one, and I will swap it to the front output so if it's slighlty not centered it won't matter at 10 mph in 4wd.



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 04:45 PM

Dropped $100 on new Trooper balljoints and tierods, all 6 in total.  Also got some new seals for the transfer case hopefully they will be the right ones......it was a bitch to track down.

 

In my research I found these Nissan geared transfer cases a pretty cool......used in the Nissan Patrols in a "sideway" configuration for years.  Makes me think about

using one on it's side for the next project.



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 08:50 PM

Dropped $100 on new Trooper balljoints and tierods, all 6 in total.  Also got some new seals for the transfer case hopefully they will be the right ones......it was a bitch to track down.

 

In my research I found these Nissan geared transfer cases a pretty cool......used in the Nissan Patrols in a "sideway" configuration for years.  Makes me think about

using one on it's side for the next project.

Make a new shifter lever and fill it full of oil and it will be perfect.In my hatch the T case was 1/2" from touching the seat rails I also clocked it so the shifter was right in the passenger seat, which is why my T case shifter was so stubby.



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Posted 19 April 2014 - 12:06 PM

Make a new shifter lever and fill it full of oil and it will be perfect.In my hatch the T case was 1/2" from touching the seat rails I also clocked it so the shifter was right in the passenger seat, which is why my T case shifter was so stubby.

 

This one is gonna stay how it is......

 

But maybe someday if I T-case my wagon....I might clock it sideways........probably will oil better than upright.

 

It's oiling system is excactly like one of those "Lucas" hand crank displays that shows you the oil sling up the gears......that's why they are known for upper bearing problems......especially if they sit for long times and then get driven short amounts..........the top bearings go dry and then you have to drive over a few MPH to get the oil to really get up to the top. 

 

The vent hole at the top is directly behind the upper bearing.  I plan on running a tube out of the vent hole that comes into the cab.......And before each run I'm gonna pour a teaspoon of Gear oil down it into the upper bearing.



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Posted 19 April 2014 - 05:13 PM

Went to the wreckers today to try to find brakes.......No luck.......at least not for 86 trooper.....I checked some 88's   but the knuckle and mountings changed in 87.....

 

I got an idea though.......

 

I found later troopers/rodeos/etc......use a larger 280mm rotor.....that bolts into the OE hub.....

 

2000ish Toyota Camry uses a Front caliper that shares mounting bolt spacing with the 86 trooper.......and is made to work with 275mm rotors......a difference of only 2.5mm at the edge of the rotor vs. 90's Isuzu............gonna try that.....

 

Mmmmmwwaaaahahahahaha........the maddness gets madder!!!



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Posted 19 April 2014 - 08:31 PM

So you will actually be able to stop.jelly. :)



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Posted 20 April 2014 - 12:03 AM

2003 rodeos use a 290mm rotor, and 2004 Es300 caliper will bolt to trooper hub made to use with 294mm rotors.........even better :)



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Posted 20 April 2014 - 09:48 AM

What are your plans for rear brakes?

 

I looked back 2 pages & noticed stock drum brakes. Just a suggestion, Isuzu Trooper rear discs with Sube 6 lug hubs & modded backing plate.Attached File  IMG_4921.JPG   117.17K   23 downloads

Or is this 'too soon for television' ?


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 10:57 AM

I have looked into that some....

 

But i figure for a wheeler buggy the rear drums will be fine....for now....

 

I may end up with the Isusu rear discs........but they will be on a Dana 44 from a Rodeo......haha.



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Posted 20 April 2014 - 03:34 PM

What are your plans for rear brakes?

 

I looked back 2 pages & noticed stock drum brakes. Just a suggestion, Isuzu Trooper rear discs with Sube 6 lug hubs & modded backing plate.attachicon.gifIMG_4921.JPG

Or is this 'too soon for television' ?

Do you have two rear brake setups?



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Posted 20 April 2014 - 04:33 PM

I think it's just a mock up.

 

Looks somewhat feasable.....

 

Although I don't know how that the "hat" of the disc will fit over the subaru Disc hub......and it woudl act as a wheel spacer if it did.

 

and then there is the issue of the backing plate......It would need to put the capliper much further outward horizonatally (closer to wheel) and radially (for bigger rotor)

 

Looks totally doable......I like the rear cable e-brake......just......not sure it's needed for this one...especially since I done have a set of disc hubs laying round.

 

Now my EA82 wagon w/ 4.11 AWD has got discs.......and dual E-brakes already on the front................hmmm...........If I converted to cable pull E-brake rears, and added 2 more handles somewhere...............I could have my own Fully Manual/Bio-Analog  X-mode!!!   THAT....would be useful.

 

Tangent complete


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 11:51 PM

Yeah, it was just a mock-up. 91 Trooper rear brakes test fit inside 14" Mazda truck whls & it would be very close, but 15" whls are fine.

Likely would have to turn down the 6 lug hub to fit inside the rotor(but not much) & longer studs. Wheel 'spacer' only 12mm, per side.

Pad area is about twice that of the GL-10 pads. Piston bore is 42mm.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 08:21 PM

Alright.......

 

Had to go to the PnP today to get a new steering rack.  The one on my DD is puking it's guts out at an alarming, and smoky rate.  As it seeps directly onto the exhaust.

Found an Excellent condition low miles rack from a 93 2wd Loyale sedan........Just what I was hoping to find......the 2wds don't get beat to piss the same way usually.

 

So while I was there i looked over in both the Isuzu and Nissan truck areas......Found some scores for sure.

 

2, 86 Trooper calipers, a direct bolt up for Cleo (as this prokect has become known)

 

1 Nissan early Pathfinder front driveline......An almost perfect flange mount for newer subaru "large" r160 diff flange

 

And a whole 96ish Isuzu Amigo front right Knuckle, Rotor, Caliper, and CV axle......<<<<For future mock up of larger front axles/knuckle/brake

 

Best part of all is that this junkyard is in the next town over, closer to were the "Moutain Top Mud Jam" happens.....And there was a flyer on the counter that said it's MUDDER FORKING HAPPENING!!!!!!    MAY 3-4 in Scio, OR......2 weeks to get ready........CRAP!!!!

 

 

And then after all that I got home to find my Tierods and Balljoints have arrived!!!  FREEKIN AWESOME!!!



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Posted 25 April 2014 - 01:33 AM

Finally recieved the Nissan T-case seals from NissanPartsOnly.com.......Great resource......$15 bucks for 3 genuine seals.  Good to know for all the t-case crowd.

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Next on to the rear driveshaft.......Now, because I needed a bit more angle to this I had to go ahead and use the Large t-case flang on the Nissan at the rear.....I ended up needing to redrill it AGAIN....so now it's got 3 patterns....o well....It worked out great because of some common dimensions shared with it's Japanese cousins.  Here it is all tucked up into the chassis

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Isuzu Trooper Front Driveline and Nissan Pathfinder driveline.

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Cut and sleeved

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Welded.....Perfect.

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Large style subaru rear diff flange, notched to accept Isuzu yoke.  Notice the different size to the inner centering ring.....smaller on the larger flange.  The centering ring matches the isuzu.....that's why I chose this one.....the notches aren't ideal...but they will work and the centering is done by the lip.

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Now for the input shaft into the T-case.......I got lucky......Just so happens that this 76 Datsun 280Z driveline fit PERFECTLY.......I swear....I didn't plan this....but it happened........slides right into the subaru 5spd. and bolts to the Nissan T-case input.  JOY!

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And a few other tidbits....

 

Removed the rear diff after driveline fitting.  It's got the cover off and draining into this old box.  Gonna weld up these for full Lincon Lockers!

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Front diff too  hehe

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Had to remove the belly armour to get the front diff out....that's fine cause I gotta weld up some seems on it anyhow.

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And Finally the new Front suspension joints.......China.........ehh.....

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 11:57 AM

Moar work.......but moar setbacks.....

 

The T-case is fully "in"....but the tras needs to come back out.....at least a few inches out anyhow......

 

The D/R I used was in this car when it was crashed......

 

Yo can see how far back the force transfered..........I think when the D/R shifter was twisted and shoved violently into the back of the case........it broke the shfit collar.....IDK....I gotta go pull it and find out......all I know is I put the T-case in hooked up a driveline and shifter but can't get the rear transfer of the D/R to fully engage.....it catches and then slips makes a grumble like synchros riding but not engaging.

 

I will post Pics of what I find tonight.



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 04:05 PM

You should pull off the top cover of the rear transfer, it is not at all uncommon for the dogs on the rear transfer to go out on the these.  Just clean it up and weld it solid.  If you plan on not going back to a FWD/4WD set up it is the better way to go.







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