Sweet82 Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 I could probably research it but I figured someone here would know. Q. What does the GT model have that makes it a GT? Q. Now what about the STI Q. WRC and WRX? Anyone know the specs the set these models apart? Just wondering.......... Glenn, 82 SubaruHummer 01 Forester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerFahrer Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 The GT designates the higher end Legacy. For now, all that means is a luxury package, but when the 05 Legacy comes out, the GT will be the turbo model STi stands for Subaru Technica International, it's Subaru's high-performance line, kind of like Mugen is to Honda. The Impreza WRX STi is the supercar in Subaru's lineup. It's a WRX with a 2.5 turbo instead of a 2.0 turbo, 300 hp instead of 227 hp, 6-speed instead of 5-speed. It just might be the fastest factory Subaru ever. WRC stands for the World Rally Championship. It's a time-trial type of racing that mostly takes place on dirt roads in Europe. Cars such as Subaru, Mitsubishi, Peugeot, Citroen, and Skoda/Seat/VW all compete in the WRC. The WRX is just a designation for a turbo Impreza, it stands for World Rally eXperimental. That answer your questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 I assume you're talking about a Legacy GT ? If so, the Legacy GT is mechanically the same as the Outback except without the lift and body trim. They usually came all dressed...leather, heated seats etc....the biggest option were the dual sunroofs. The engine in the same underpowered 2.5L as the Outback. Wheel and tires are different....lower profile rubber as opposed to the 70 series on the O/B. I could be wrong but I believe the top speed was electronically limited to a higher setting than the O/B,(primarily because of the speed rating of the tires). The STI is something you or I will never be able to afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philbiker Posted April 28, 2004 Share Posted April 28, 2004 Having just gone through the process of buying a new 2004 Legacy, I don't think either of those answers is exactly right regarding the "Legacy GT". First of all, what's a "GT" in general? "GT" in car parlance stands for "Grand Touring". It's generally a sporty car that can be used everyday and for highway trips. A GT car is not a "sports car", but a "sporty car". I own a 1995 Kawasaki GPZ1100 motorcycle, which is very much regarded as a "GT Bike". "GT" cars are usually achieved by taking a family car and adding sporty styling cues, wheels, and suspension upgrades. So what's the difference between the 2004 Legacy GT and a "regular" Legacy L or L 35th anniversary edition? The GT has the 55% rear / 45% variable torque distribution AWD system that is only common with the top of the line VDC Outback. It also has a limited slip rear differential. Neato ground effects A unique wheel style with a more aggressive suspension, lowering it something like one or two inches when compared to the "L" or "L 35th Anniversary" models. Probably has sport tires also. In automatic transmission versions, there is a mode that allows you to manually shift gears if you want to. (the style is commonly known as "tiptronic", though that's a brand name, like facial tissues are known as Kleenex) Lastly, the interior is gussied up like crazy with an 8 way power driver's seat, lots more plastic wood than the regular Legacy, leather upholstry, side air bags (the only way to get them in a Legacy unfortunately). The new 2005 GT is going to have all of the above and a Turbo engine I believe. IMO it would be a better car if they'd put the H6 in there rather than a turbo version of the problematic 2.5 Phase II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Clark Posted April 29, 2004 Share Posted April 29, 2004 GT used to stand for Grand Touring.* *driving along in style, speed, comfort and convenience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richierich Posted April 29, 2004 Share Posted April 29, 2004 You also have to realize that in some years, there are GT and GT Limited. What Philbiker & Chip have explained are GT Limited, at least for the earlier (98-02) I am not sure after that. I have a 2000 GT, it has 55/45 (cuz it a 5spd) LSD, CD & Cassette (but no multiple CD or weather band), nice velour cloth interior, etc. Could send you over a copy or the invoice if interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setright Posted April 29, 2004 Share Posted April 29, 2004 Ahem! Gran Turismo Please, no translations, let's stick to the original language. A true GT is something like Mercedes SL, Porsche 928, countless Bentlys, BMW 6, 8, and 6 again now, Lexus SC400, Ferrari 456..and so on. Cars capable of driving at very high speeds, keeping occupants cocooned in leather and silence, and having room for a weekend's luggage. Handling should be tuned for high speed stability and predictability, to suit 120mph motoring on sweeping motorway bends. Ahh, just the thing back in the glorious days of speed-restriction-free motorways..... GT is misused as an indicator of equipment level on our family boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinsUBARU Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 http://www.cars101.com read up current info, archives of specs for at least 10 or so years, ect, ect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Clark Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 I know it's an Italian phrase (Great Tourism), but I can't think of a single Italian car made that is "capable of driving at very high speeds, keeping occupants cocooned in leather and silence, and having room for a weekend's luggage" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondasucks Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 I know it's an Italian phrase (Great Tourism), but I can't think of a single Italian car made that is "capable of driving at very high speeds, keeping occupants cocooned in leather and silence, and having room for a weekend's luggage" Maserati Quattroporte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Clark Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Oh sure, bring up a new car... Although GT appears to have started with the Alfa Romeo 1931 two seat 1750. Not a lot of luggage space in the trunk, but with the luggage rack, yer good to go. Quoted from: http://www.pcug.org.au/~mstreet/cars/alfa/montreal/grand_touring.htm "The binomial speed-elegance lived its period of greatest splendour at the end of the 1920's when the great automobile companies provided to the carrozzeria chassis which were true [veri e propri] masterpieces of technology. The automobile was endowed with, finally, its own identity without any analogies to the horse-drawn carriage. In those same years the name "Grand Touring" was born in Italy. Initially it was given to cars that offered the maximum comfort and a high grade of mechanical reliability. Successively, the name GT itself changed meaning to indicate, instead, cars with a [prettamente] (decidedly?) sporting character. Very quickly this term was also adopted abroad, since it married to perfection with the image of fast and sporting cars. One of the first Italian cars to carry this acronym was the Alfa Romeo 1750 GT of 1931, bodied by Carrozzeria Touring. This car represented perfectly the new concept of grand touring; as well as on the road it was in fact used in competition, and brought back achievements of importance. After the second world war, the concept of GT, even if slowly, came to be transformed. In postwar Italy, the recognised homeland of the grand tourers, began the destiny of these cars, from the end of the 1950's to the first years of the 1970's, that is from the end of postwar reconstruction to the oil crisis. With the diffusion of a certain well being and with a higher purchasing power the number of sporting clients longing for fast cars, luxurious and comfortable, specialised for the new motorways, increased. In those years there emerged the image of the future GT in Italy: high speed, ability to maintain high averages under various types of journeys, given considerable ease of handling and roadholding. Alfa Romeo, already a protagonist in the sector with the 1900 Sprint, launched in 1954, surprised the international market with the Giulietta Sprint, a grand tourer of only 1290 cc. This car represented a new concept of GT: medium capacity, sophisticated mechanicals, excellent performance and great ease of handling. From this moment, capacity, power and, therefore, high speed no longer represented absolute criteria for qualifying as a grand tourer." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerFahrer Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Maserati Quattroporte Or a Ferrari 456GT... hey it even has GT in the name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacy2.5 Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 i saw a show on t.v. once that explained real gt cars have certian attributes to body styling, and sc models have there own peticular styling, and so fourth, each kind of badging is suppose to have its own "look", i cant remember the name of the show right now, i will try to find out. i have a legacy gt and i believed flared fender and semi agressive body lines are part of what makes a gt a gt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setright Posted May 1, 2004 Share Posted May 1, 2004 LOL! Tiny, good comment. However, there are some, like the Ferrari 456 that I mentioned. And Subyluvr reminded you of :-) The Maser isn't new by the way, in the late eighties there was a quattroporte that had the misfortune of looking similar to the Hyundai Stellar ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camosuba Posted May 1, 2004 Share Posted May 1, 2004 this is sex on wheels i've seen one in emerald green it was beautiful but i still love my subaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setright Posted May 1, 2004 Share Posted May 1, 2004 Aye! The Bi-turbo V6 is also sharpish in the speed stakes...326 horsepower ;-) Although, the Maser won't really cut it in the reliability part of the GT equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjim5551212 Posted May 1, 2004 Share Posted May 1, 2004 My dad just got a 04 Legacy GT Wagon. They have leather, dual sunroof, the LSD, the different 4wd system and bigger front brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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