everything you need to know is in the first reply i posted in this thread. i suggested a 95 automatic EJ22 because of the situation - away from home and traveling. you do have other options. this posting looks almost exactly like some of my writing, but nonethess yes you can use these EJ22's:
yes it's accurate with these notes:
1. 95 automatics always have EGR and dual port exhaust so they are the easiest swap.
2. you can use an EJ22 without EGR with a simple vacuum hose swappage. very easy, there's a thread on this forum about it. ;
3. 96+ have single port exhaust and many places wont' sell the exhaust...so that's why i didn't recommend it for your situation.
*** because you're confusing yourself by asking people that ***have never even tried it before*** LOL. don't listen to people with zero experience, that's not a good way to get the most accurate information.
you will not get any more Subaru specific experience than on this forum, i will walk and talk circles around any Subaru technician or junk yard guy. I do swaps and interchange parts they can't even dream of doing - they have no idea what interchanges because they only swap what a computer tells them to swap. you have a choice here:
A. listen to people that have done this gobs of times and know what they're talking about (me, Miles, etc).
B. listen to someone that's never even attempted it before and regurgitates what's on a computer screen
I suggest going with option A.
*** When I buy an engine i tell THEM what i want, i don't ask. don't ask them for swap information, they don't know crap. they sell engines...from all sorts of years, makes, models, and just regurgitate what a computer tells them. all the stuff about wiring and computers is just apocalpytic talk from someone reading a computer screen - they have no clue.
if you pick the right EJ22 it's a bolt in and plug and play affair, it's exactly like installing another EJ25.
3. re-read the quoted portion that you copied/pasted from somewhere else i wrote - that tells you exactly what you need to know.
4. re-read my first reply to this thread - i listed engines available right now. you have no work to do - i already did it for you.
EJ25 and EJ25D is the same thing for this discussion. EJ25D is the EJ25 variation used in your vehicle. yes - DOHC engine.
Google or search Subaru forums for EJ25 headgasket - there are threats of lawsuits, entire websites and forums dedicated to the EJ25 headgasket issue. if someone doesn't know about it then you can pretty much ignore everything else they say because they don't know anything about Subarus if they don't know that. no way i'd want a used EJ25D and their headgasket debacles - again don't listen to me or anyone else do a subaru forum or google search and you'll see how prevalent it is. the EJ25D is the most ominious of all the EJ25's as well, making it even less desirable.
the EJ22 is one of the best engines Subaru has ever made, very robust and they run forever. replace seals and timing belts and you're golden.
the rear separator is the one item that must be done with the engine out of the vehicle, so i'd say that's the only required item to replace right now. EJ22 timing belts and seals are really easy to do in the car so not a big deal. i'd rather do it when the motor is out but it's not a big deal and can be done in an hour or two once the engine is in the car. but shops charge $40o - $700 for timing belt jobs so it can be pricey too - nice to wrap it up now if possible and you're paying someone else to do the labor.
Aaaah, thank you.
I've generally found mechanics, and salvage yards useful... so this is new to me with them being so clueless. But yes, I'll go with the incredible number of times this has been done & commented about & your experience... over their by the book comments.
You're laid out what needs to be done, and what works, very clearly. That helps a lot. I'm going to wait till my dad is finally reachable tomorrow (it's his car), & decide what to do. I may have questions then on details to get it all lined up.
Now a big question. Any chance anyone here knows someone in Clinton NJ or anywhere from there to Mid-Hudson valley (Kingston) NY -- who can do this job for me?
The car is in Clinton. I'm in Kingston. I can uhaul it to someone along the way. Then go back & get it when done. I have a couple mechanics in Kingston I've liked in the past for complex diagnositics and jobs well done. I need to call again specifically about doing the 2.2 swap. No one's suggested it and all talk about engines costing at least $1000. I feel like I'm in a twightzone.
It's been completely weird hearing salvage yards say 2.5D, oh that's the good engine. It's obviously the troubled one after a small amount of forum reading from the beginning. I guess their trying to sell their dud, but I'm not used to so much snookering. And local mechanic saying "oh that engine usually lasts longer, huh?" Also odd that the mechanic in Clinton with years of experience doesn't seem to know they swap or much of anything about the 2.5D.
Okay, so now I'm close to good to go. Just have to put the pieces together (mechanic, engine, exhaust, father's reaction then decision).
One more big concern -- if the check engine light comes on, it won't pass emissions where I live. Is there any way around that? Seems like if I use one with EGR already, then it will hook in alright?
Thank you, thank you....Grossgary, and MilesFox...!!