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#1 mark0006

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 10:32 AM

If this is true the resale value of the BRZ could be pretty good.

 
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A new report coming from Australia indicates the Subaru BRZ might not receive a second generation.

It seems the Subaru BRZ could be terminated after only one generation in the event that Toyota and BMW will deepen their collaboration. One of the reasons why Subaru got its own version of the GT 86 is because Toyota has a 20 percent stake in Subaru's parent company, Fuji Heavy Industries, but that might not happen for the second-generation GT 86 which is said to become more radical than today's car.

BMW and Toyota are working together on a high-performance sports car slotted above the GT 86 and chief engineer Tetsuya Tada says the collaboration between the two parties could be expanded to include the second-gen GT 86. The latter could end up with an alternative powertrain or an inline-four cylinder engine as a replacement for the current boxer motor. Regardless of its heart, expect some form of electrification to boost power output as well as slash fuel consumption.

Tada hinted the next GT 86 could make use of the supercapacitor technology found in the company's Le Mans TS040 Hybrid racer. In an interview to DRIVE, Tada said "maybe next generation 86 must have some kind of eco technology like racing hybrid."

Until then, a mid-cycle refresh for the Toyota GT 86 is in the works for a 2015 market release and could include a larger boxer engine or uprated intake and exhaust systems sourced from Gazoo Racing while the final drive ratio could also be altered to make the car feel livelier.

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#2 AWD J3wman

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 10:53 AM

I mean it would be more true to the original AE86 but it also would be a collaboration with BMW which I would not be a fan of. Maybe Subaru and Honda should get together and make the perfect automobile?



#3 MR_Loyale

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 09:48 AM

I think Subaru never intended to go farther with the BRZ, thus the "Z" for "Zenith".



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 09:23 PM

Maybe Subaru and Honda should get together and make the perfect automobile?

NSX with a Boxer............perfection



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Posted 30 June 2014 - 10:54 AM

NSX with a Boxer............perfection

 

Or a Honda beat with a 1L boxer.  Honda does best with small engines, anything under 2.0L is their territory. So like a Kei sized car with a boxer in the middle and rwd would be the business.



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Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:08 PM

Or a Honda beat with a 1L boxer.  Honda does best with small engines, anything under 2.0L is their territory. So like a Kei sized car with a boxer in the middle and rwd would be the business.

 

A Kei sized car with a bower in the MIDDLE????  where the hell would a driver sit?



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Posted 04 July 2014 - 08:45 AM

longitudinally mounted boxer, like a Testarosssa.



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Posted 13 July 2014 - 05:53 PM

I like the way you think.



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Posted 15 July 2014 - 04:03 PM

longitudinally mounted boxer, like a Testarosssa.

 

Yeah, or like a porsche, or SuberDave's Coupe.........I get the layout.....but again......

 

In a Kei sized car (think smaller than a Geo Metro or Subaru Justy)  there would not be room for an engine and transmission laid out in that configuration.  there's barely a back seat.....let alone enoguh room for an engine and trans.

 

It would need to be a bit larger.......like an NSX with a boxer.



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Posted 15 July 2014 - 04:17 PM

I was thinking size like an MR2. But move the rear axle farther back to make room for the driver and passenger.

Place the front wheels right at the nose and voila, massive passenger space.

Not to mention handling like a go-kart

 

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 11:11 PM

The head of Fuji Heavy Industries has come out and basically shot this rumor to bits. A second generation is pretty much assured. As for whether or not it will fulfill the biggest gripe of more horses is yet to be seen.

 

 

The crap that comes out of the Australian rumor mill astounds me sometimes.  :rolleyes:


Edited by MR_Loyale, 15 July 2014 - 11:54 PM.


#12 MR_Loyale

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 11:17 PM

I do understand the Subaru dilemma with the BRZ. If they put a turbo in it, the thing starts to compete with their baby, the WRX.  You don't have to be a marketing genius to figure that out.



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Posted 22 July 2014 - 07:00 AM

I do understand the Subaru dilemma with the BRZ. If they put a turbo in it, the thing starts to compete with their baby, the WRX.  You don't have to be a marketing genius to figure that out.

 

Turbo Legacy and Baja's show Subaru isn't too married to having the turbo engines in the WRX only.



#14 MR_Loyale

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 02:12 AM

Turbo Legacy and Baja's show Subaru isn't too married to having the turbo engines in the WRX only.

 

Yeah but those were both internal Subaru projects. They had to be brought kicking and screaming to do the BRZ.  They already have a turbo BRZ engine only it is in the Forester.



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Posted 30 July 2014 - 08:35 AM

A turbo BRZ will put it into that price point where I would much rather have an STI. I like my BRZ, but I like it about 27 thousand dollars worth and not much more. 



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Posted 30 July 2014 - 09:01 AM

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 01:35 AM

There was a discussion on a car video series called /drive and they were discussing the reason there is no official turbo for the BRZ/FRS/GT-86 platform.

There isn't enough clearance to mount the turbo under the engine like they did with the WRX.

 

Also, the reasoning in the mentioned article is wrong about Subaru only getting a version of the GT-86 was because Toyota owns a 20% stake in the company.

This is utter rubbish. The only reason Toyota got a GT86/FRS is because they own a 20% stake in Subaru.

As we all know, Subaru was presented the idea by Toyota, and was convinced to build it, by Toyota.

Next to nothing on the car is actually from Toyota. The direct injection system, and some design cues are about it.

There may be a few other things I have missed, but there is very little that is non-Subaru in the car.

This fact makes me wonder about the legitimacy of this article and if the writer did his research before presenting it for publishing.

 

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