scoobiedubie Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Many of the auto parts supply stores no longer stock the oil filters that match the Subaru oil filter dimensions. They will sell you a fatter and probably shorter oil filter. The danger with these fatter oil filters is that they may rub against the back of the auxiliary fan frame, resulting in sudden explosive oil spray from the oil filter, and engine damage if this remains unnoticed. Mine blew in only 3000 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj421 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) I work at O'Reilly Auto Parts, and I change my Loyale's oil every 3000 miles. I can say that I always use a Bosch 3400 filter, and it's always been the same. Fits perfectly fine, and Bosch has not changed the design on it. Doesn't even come close to rubbing anything. I've also tried a K&N filter, part # HP-2008. The filter sucked (in my opinion), but it didn't come close to the fan. I also used to run our brand of filter (Microguard), and it fit fine. I have not heard at work of us discontinuing any filters. What brand of filter did you have? Tomorrow when I go into work, I can get part numbers off every filter available for an EA82 and see which ones are larger than the Bosch. Edited August 10, 2014 by jj421 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobiedubie Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 Napa sold me it. It was not Bosch. I already tossed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj421 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) If it was Napa's house brand of filter, then that's probably why. Go with a "name brand" filter, and it should fit with no issue. Filters made by Fram, Bosch, WIX, Mobil-1, K&N, and some other brands. Our house brand (Microguard) oil filters are made by WIX, but some Microguard filters are slightly different in size than the WIX counterpart. Edited August 10, 2014 by jj421 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 napa house brand 1361, 21361, and wix 51361. Also can use motorcraft (ford) fl-1a or equivalent, mighty (fast lube) m500 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKghandi Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 i always run WIX as i used to work at oriellys also it was the best filter imho i cannot remember the number now though i dont think wix makes microguard, i think fram does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj421 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Fram used to make Microguard filters, but now WIX does. I want to try a WIX filter, but I have such good performance with the Bosch that I'm "scared" to change. Maybe next oil change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR_Loyale Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Fram used to make Microguard filters, but now WIX does. I want to try a WIX filter, but I have such good performance with the Bosch that I'm "scared" to change. Maybe next oil change. Buy a Fram. You want "the good stuff". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Forget the fram regular filter. IT has been posted about for a whole decade. The napa gold or silver (21361) series filters are mfg'd by WIX (51361), at least it was back in the day when i had ea82's. If you want a larger filter, cross reference with ford motorcraft fl1-a (5.0). Caution with turbo app on that, as a larger oil filter holds the oil near the turbo cross pipe causing the potential to heat soak the oi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobiedubie Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 It was a Napa Gold 1361 oil filter that suffered premature failure due to insufficient clearance to the auxiliary fan assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaru1988 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) Purolator filters at Advance Auto Parts work great (the right size) and are made in the USA (at least my last one was). Wix is a decent filter, but the last fuel filter I bought for my '88 DL was made in CHINA. I know some of the Wix oil filters are made in Mexico, so YMMV. If you love your Subaru, get anything but Fram. The study mentioned above is getting a little long in the tooth, but it still has some good info. Unless FRAM has changed dramatically, I'd avoid them.. http://www.minimopar.net/oilfilters/index.html You can put a FL1A on a Subaru?! Wow..I trust that oil filter, I'll have to look into that. It's a Purolator too, BTW. Edited August 10, 2014 by subaru1988 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobiedubie Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 It is not the quality of oil filter that was the problem. My point is, the diameter of the oil filter is too large. It did not even touch the auxiliary fan assembly when I installed it. But the engine moves around a bit on bumpy roads, and that caused the strongback on the assembly to puncture the oil filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR_Loyale Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 OK folks, I WAS JOKING about the Fram. I am not that dumb. Well not always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 STP is what I always run. 2827??? don't quote me on that......I know the EJs run the 2869. I always get the "oil change kit" for around $22 bucks from autozone.....with a 5quart jug of whatever good brand conventional 10-30 or 10-40 they have included that month. Buy five and the 6th is free (practically) with the Autozone reward card. ScoobieDoobie, I would inspect your motor mounts, your radiator mounts......and the condition of the lower radiator support.....you bent something or it's moving TOO much if the filter is hitting the fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj421 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Indeed, avoid Fram for any and all filters. Anything is better. People seem to think otherwise. I always hear at my work, "I want a good filter; give me the Fram." I took this picture the other night of my oil filter. There's a good amount of clearance. So yeah, do the above and check the mounts for everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spazomatic Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I always use napa gold 1361 on my old GL, and its good to go. If your filter is hitting the fan, you have other issues. I didnt know an FL1A would work on it. That would effectively increase the total oil capacity, and mean that (for me) i could quit stocking the 1361, since i already have cars with the fl1a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I've been running NPN oil filters on my XT6. I also use Motul synthetic 5w40 oil as well. Don't seem to have any issues whatsoever BUT it's also not cheap either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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