Derekstanelle Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 So I went out and bought some nice 16" rims on brand new tires. Little did I know subarus lug pattern is 4x140 and not 4x100 or 4x114 like I needed. Does anyone know if I can redrill my rims to fit the 4x140 pattern? They are universal 4 lug so they already have 4x100 and 4x114 bolt holes. Can I do this myself? Difficulty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooner Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Bummer, if this was me i would resell what you bought. Wouldn't be worth trying to redrill because it might ruin the rims and you couldn't sell them. Just my .2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l75eya Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Might want to try and return them. More trouble than its worth and the chance of screwing it up and winding up with four very large paper weights is high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhelme Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I wouldn't redrill the rims but you could redrill the hubs and drums to 114. Its been done before with good results.I believe it was Loyale 2.7 Turbo who did it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I wouldn't redrill the rims but you could redrill the hubs and drums to 114. Its been done before with good results.I believe it was Loyale 2.7 Turbo who did it. Yes, I done that in year 1996. Since then my Subaru "BumbleBeast" has been working Flawlessly. First I done it to the old rear drums, then I went with Rear Discs. Here are a couple of photos for you: ~► http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/topic/122276-the-bumble-beast/?do=findComment&comment=1044257 Kind Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstanelle Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 That looks like the rout I'd want to go. How difficult is it to redrill the hubs? And what about the drum brakes in the rear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 ... Little did I know subarus ... ... How difficult is it to redrill the hubs? And what about the drum brakes in the rear? Sincerely, if you are a Newbie in Mechanics, I kindly suggest you to take the Hubs and Drums, along one of the New Rims you have, plus new Lugs, to a specialized lathe shop, and let them do the Job for you. I am not being disrespectful, but doing such work wrong, could be Dangerous for your Safety and / or you might end with a bouncing car with non-centered rims. Kind Regards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstanelle Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 I have some experience in mechanics as iv been rebuilding engines for the past few years but I'm far from an expert. So I'm not too intimidated by the re drill. Couldn't I take off my hubs, knock the studs out, line them up flush with my hub centric rims, and mark where the new bolt holes would be? Would this center them properly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 ... Couldn't I take off my hubs, knock the studs out, line them up flush with my hub centric rims, and mark where the new bolt holes would be? Would this center them properly? Not exactly. The Center Round metal on the Hubs & Drums, which is intended for centering the Rims, is Huge on these older Subarus, intended for a big round opening in the center of Subaru's 4X140 Rims, and usually the aftermarket Rims in smaller lug patterns, such like 4X114.3 or 4X100, does Not has that size of opening on their center holes; so, in case the center holes on your new rims are smaller than the subaru's rims, you still will need to take those Hubs & Drums to a Lathe Shop, to let them reduce their diameter to fit the new Rims center hole size. Kind Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstanelle Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 Thanks for the clarification, I feel that that iv gained some knowledge here. Thanks everyone for the advice! Il post pics of my loyale with the wheels when I get everything squared away 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Thanks for the clarification... You're Welcome. Don't forget to share Photos here. Kind Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhelme Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I am not for sure why this has never become a popular modification. It seems like it should be fairly straight forward job with the only thing that needs to be farmed out is the lathe work to mill the hub for the center of the wheel. Maybe someone needs to document it well enough so that anyone can do it ( lots of photos ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 ... the only thing that needs to be farmed out is the lathe work to mill the hub for the center of the wheel. ... I Agree. I would made a photo guided Writeup, but I didn't had a Camera on 1996. However, there are some other USMB Members who does such conversion, for a fee. My friend Scott in Bellingham, offers such modifications for sale. ~► www.SJRLift.com ~► http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/topic/131565-sjr-full-time/page-3 Also, there are adaptor plates to change the lug pattern. Kind Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Truck Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 i did the 4-6 lug 140 conversion with help of my friend who has a automotive machine shop it went well and i have a large choice of wheels to use. after i get my 4in lift ill go a little bigger but Id do the 6-lug conversion as its easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 ... do the 6-lug conversion as its easier. Yes, it is Easier, but he has This Problem: So I went out and bought some nice 16" rims on brand new tires... He already has the New Rims with another four lug pattern. Kind Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideoutjoey Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 how much is too much for a set of 15" Peugeot rims would one say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 how much is too much for a set of 15" Peugeot rims would one say? It depends on many variables, such like the wheels' condition, if they're Luxury alloys or simple steelies, if they comes with tires and / or lugs, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-N-Fool Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Might want to try and return them. More trouble than its worth and the chance of screwing it up and winding up with four very large paper weights is high. The chance you could end up in a crumpled heap along side the road is also high, when one of your wheels falls off. Sell the wheels and get the right ones or look for some wheel spacer adepter plates that will bold to the subaru lugs and then to the wheels. Edited February 4, 2015 by Fish-N-Fool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonist Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Except that Subarus already have a very large offset, and putting on spacers thick enough for this moves the wheels out a long way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 That's why a Lug pattern Re-drill on the Hubs / Drums is the Best way to go ... In my Own humble Opinion. Already has passed almost two decades of non-stop use and abuse, of my Subaru "BumbleBeast" without any issue related to the Re-drill job I did. ... ... Kind Regards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-N-Fool Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Except that Subarus already have a very large offset, and putting on spacers thick enough for this moves the wheels out a long way. That's what fender flares are for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberoo Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 That's what fender flares are for No thats what garden edging is for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchumbs Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 6 lug redrill, the easier and safer thing to do. Checkout the video below. Find a buyer for the rims you've already got, get yourself some 6 lug rims and you are good to go. Totally works for me and was very easy to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikldom Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Great Link to a Great Video.. Thanks for putting that on here.. we need to put that as a "Sticky" Somewhere... This is sooo much easier then finding Peugot rims.... 6 lug rims are everywhere in salvage yards cheep too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in Bellingham Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I redrill hubs 6 bolt and the common 4 bolts see here www.sjrlift.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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