Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 So, this weekend these Wheels changed from this: To This: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 It was a Rainy weekend... so instead of borrowing the Air Compressor and the rest of the Hardware, I went to Paint 'em at my Friend's shop, I let 'em dry there and bring 'em home today's early morning, then I went to mount the Tyres; so the wheels are little Dirty in that photo. The tyres are still 205 / 60 R 15" (measures 25" overall diameter) like the previous ones, but these were gifted to me, after some Restore / Remodel jobs I did during the past months on a House, I hope they'll perform well on my Mixed onroad / offroad drivings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 I painted their outer lip in Yellow, to match the "Radioactive Yellow" finish on my "BumbleBeast" but, since this is an industrial grade, chip resistant Paint, that Yellow painted over the Black paint, looks darker than the Subie, somehow. Then, my friend talked to me about this "Rim Pro-Tec" Wheel Bands, see: ~► http://www.carid.com/rimpro-tec/rimpro-tec-wheel-bands-16610587.html However, I preffer Paint, rather than anything that could fall off or be stolen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 What do you think about Covering the lug nuts with empty Plastic bullets? No, I will Not do that, it was another idea from my Friend... I dislike to have things that could fall off easily from my Cars. Kind Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 I asked this Before, in a previous post of this thread: ...I had to search for new lug Nuts that fits good on the... ...Aluminium wheel's Base, shown above. I found this ones which are Strong and well built: ...which seems to fit well, but has an elongated curvy base, that is not going deeply inside the 45º portion of the seats. What do you think about that? The wheels I have, came from a 1991 Nissan 240sx known as "S13" and they are centered by the Lug nuts, not by the Hubs, but I've been driving my "BumbleBeast" like that, since year 1996, when I did the Hub re-drill to change the lug pattern. I'm not sure if I am using the Proper lug nuts, the blue ones shown above; or if I need to obtain different lug nuts. Please let me know. Kind Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 I investigated and the angle of the seats, on those Aluminium Wheels I have, is not 45º They have a 60º angle, and the lug nuts also seems to have similar angle, but curved... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomRhere Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Those appear to have a tapered seat area for the lug nuts, so yeah, 60* conical-seat, ( \ / ) lug nuts, not ball-seat, (curved). In other words, your old lug nuts should work for these rims. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonist Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 There are 2 different types of lug nuts. 1 for steel rims and those for alloys. They have different angles on them because of the differing strength of the rim material. To be honest, you want the nuts pushing in from as high as possible on the hole. The material is thicker there. I'm really surprised that the Nissan wheels were lug located, not hub. Still prefer the type of nuts that have a straight hole with a flat nut. They push on much harder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) There are 2 different types of lug nuts. 1 for steel rims and those for alloys. They have different angles on them because of the differing strength of the rim material... Yes, that makes sense. ... To be honest, you want the nuts pushing in from as high as possible on the hole. The material is thicker there... Yes, that was the reason I obtained the Blue nuts, because their base was bigger. What I didn't noticed at the Store, was that they were slightly Curved, instead straingt angled. ... In other words, your old lug nuts should work for these rims. That means that I better remove all the new, Blue nuts, and obtain others (the old ones were Sold along the old wheels) with Straight 60º angle? How about nuts that have that sort of wide Washer as the old ones? Please, let me know what do you think about this. I just want my Subie to be Safe. Kind Regards. Edited July 1, 2015 by Loyale 2.7 Turbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomRhere Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Wish I could remember what vehicle I have seen them on, but there is/are lug nuts available like what that last picture shows. Wider taper area, with what looks like a washer on the rim end of the nut. There are lug nuts that are straight-shanked and need a flat-washer, so don't mistake those for what you need, as they fit rims with a "straight drilled" lug hole, no taper.. That is what I was thinking you needed until I went back and looked at the pics again. I could make out the taper in the rim. Pic with lug nut sitting in rim is what threw me off. You need lug nuts with wider seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonist Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Is there a way to find what the factory Nissan lug nuts look like? I think they may have the same thread pitch as the Subaru. Or is that Toyota...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 Dear Tom, with this: ... You need lug nuts with wider seat. You mean that the Blue Nuts that I obtained for the Wheels, are alright?Because they have a Wider seat, and it is angled, but seems to not be @ 60ºThat is the problem... other nuts have the 60º angle, but a much narrower base.Kind Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) By the way, these Wheels are featured in the Nissan 240sx @ the "Need for Speed = Underground 2" PC game: ... I think they may have the same thread pitch as the Subaru. Or is that Toyota...? Nissan uses the Same pitch as Subaru = 1.25 However, I changed all the sixteen lugs for Toyota Hilux, So my "BumbleBeast" has the thicker 1.50 pitch thread. I changed them all during the Hub Redrill I did in 1996... Is there a way to find what the factory Nissan lug nuts look like? ... That was the reason why I posted the specs here, hoping that maybe there's a Nissan fan among us, because I couldn't find proper info online; the only thing related to those Wheels that I found online, is this funny Video, of a guy placing the nuts Backásswards: The comments @ YouTube are so Funny! Edit: those pictured here,, are the same seven spoke wheels I have. Edited January 22, 2016 by Loyale 2.7 Turbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 It was a Rainy weekend... so instead of borrowing the Air Compressor and the rest of the Hardware, I went to Paint 'em at my Friend's shop... Somehow that decision, lead to another problem. See here for further Details: ~► http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/topic/154156-water-in-gearbox-oo/?p=1290597 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 The information found online, points to different results for the same wheels, so I don't know if I should obtain a set of This lug nuts: ~► http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-Chrome-Mag-Seat-Lug-Nuts-For-Nissan-Factory-OEM-Aluminum-Wheels-M12x1-25-/141398323678 Instead of the blue ones that I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomRhere Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 The ones in the link are straight shank lugs, Not what you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 Well, since... ...The information found online, points to different results for the same wheels... ...I asked to the Experts @ the Nissan 240SX forum, via private messages and also on a thread that I started there: ~► http://www.240sxforums.com/forums/beginner-s-forum/173865-s13-seven-spoke-15-wheels-lug-nuts-size-question.html And after properly measuring the blue Lug Nuts I have, I found that they are the proper ones, because they are @ 60º straight angled bottom, Not curved as I thought; they have a smooth curved edges which made me think that they were curved, but my tired eyes fooled me somehow. So, the sixteen blue Lug Nuts are the Proper ones, thanks to God. I can not spend more money on this... Kind Regards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 The older S13 Nissan 240SX 15" wheel that I have for years as spare wheel, was found locally, so it might came from a LADM (Latin American Domestic Market) Specs 240SX, then Years after that, I searched for a complete set of four S13 wheels for my "BumbleBeast" across all Honduras with no avail, because the people who has them, doesn't sell and the Junk Yards are selling all the Aluminium to local Recyclers, in order to obtain more profit...So, I imported a set from Texas (USA) to Honduras (Caribbean - Central America) which I found on CraigsList; and then I found a Difference in the inner side of the Wheels, let me Explain: an image worth 1,001 words, see: As far as I could tell, everything on the set of four wheels with USDM Specs, including Year (1991) of manufacture, -40 mm offset, Size, JWL approval, etc, etc, etc... is identical with the single LADM Wheel I have, except that the LADM Specs one, has such "Reinforcements" pictured on the photo above.Maybe I'm wrong, and there could be another reason for such hiding reinforcements I found, but as far as I could tell, it might has something to do with the Market where Nissan sold those 240 SX.Kind Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 so much talk Jes ...can we see them on the BB ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) ... Edited May 20, 2021 by Loyale 2.7 Turbo tinypic disappeared and took my photos... so this one is from 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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superpoo93 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Sweet! Looks awesome! You have the greatest write up's. Thank you, for sharing your passion with us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 Sweet! Looks awesome! You have the greatest write up's. Thank you, for sharing your passion with us. Thank you so much for your kind words, which I really appreciate. I always hope that what I share, will be Useful for other persons... Kind Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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