Quidam Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I have an 87 GL 10 wagon. I want 4:44 LSD and 2.5 L SOHCL EJ trans 4:44 automatic or stick shift. What donar vehicle gives me 4:44 and 2.5 L SOHC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 early 2000s outbacks, i own a few with that exact package 444 is automatic only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
987687 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 90's up to 04 outbacks, legacy GTs, RS, and foresters have 4.44 automatics. I'm sure something after 04 does too, but those are harder to adapt due to more electrowizzardry. The only 4.44 manual in the US market is the 04-05 forester XT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 The only 4.44 manual in the US market is the 04-05 forester XT. '04-'08 FXT, '04-'05 Legacy GT, '04-'08 Outback XT, and 2013+ Crosstreks (That's just the application for the ring/pinion set, newest supersession is 38100AB681, MSRP is about $400, but you can find it for a lot less online, this will fit in any Subaru EJ 5MT, that's what I did) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quidam Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 Here is the car. I've been looking at salvage cars and it seems promising. 3:7 geared pushbutton 5 speed. I'm wondering if a CVT trans would fit in a GL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quidam Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) I found this 2013 Outback, something like this may work. 2.5l with the six speed. I'm thinking that's not the DCCD trans? I ran across 3.90 final drive for the cvt. Same as the Justy ECVT. I've got three of those. 2010 2.5 cars are plentiful. Edited December 30, 2015 by Quidam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Simple way to remember auto's is all EJ25 96-04 are 4.44: Outback, LSi, GT, SUS, Forester, Impreza RS I presume later ones follow that same line but I'm less familiar with all trim patterns/years. (H6's are 4.11) 96-99 won't have LSD. those are best found in 2000+ cars101 delineates fairly well which have rear LSD, though folks have said it's not uncommon for them to act like open diffs with age/miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quidam Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 Hey Gary, Actually I can buy a 40,000 4:44 LSD for $300.00 delivered to my door. JDM clean low mileage. Thanks for the feedback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quidam Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 That Outback above has 4:44 standard with the six speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 good deal. in general the auto's are easy to remember/determine final drive ratio, manual trans final drives vary more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quidam Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 You know, I'm a person that likes a CVT. In passing...the Justy 3.9 geared ecvt is rpm limited to 5600. The current CVT seem to still be a little weak compared to the standard transmissions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quidam Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 2013 Subaru Outback Specifications Active Valve Control System (AVCS) variable valve timing intake valves Multi-spray injectors with Electronic Throttle Control (ETC) system Continuous AWD with viscous-coupling locking center differential Stability control. Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC) with electronic traction control (TCS) Probably has cable shifter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Anything that new will have an immobilizer, which means it will be virtually impossible to get running on the stock ECU. Mechanically, it probably wouldn't be too difficult to get a new CVT into an '87.5 or newer EA82 (if yours is an early model '87, you'll have the smaller transmission tunnel, which will make anything but a 5MT difficult, of course, looks like you've got a lift, which will help). But the CVT is very much computer controlled, and the whole system is very integrated.....you'll have an electrical nightmare trying to get it to run in a different car. You'll probably want to stick to ~2005 or older for engine donors unless you plan to go full standalone engine management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 the swap you are considering is a huge amount of work, even if the parts are free. why not just swap in a dual range manual trans and call it a day. you will have a ''hiway'' range for fuel economy, and a ''low'' range for when you want ''power'' off road. just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quidam Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 Thanks for your thoughts. The car actually doesn't have a lift at present. I'll have to look at the build date. I do have three DR 5 speeds, however this car is too nice to offroad and will be a daily driver. My plan for it would still be 2.5 sohc with 4;44. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quidam Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 This car was mfg. 04/87 I have proper lug nuts now and bought a new set of 195/55 15 tires. I have a traction wagon trans on hand too. But a five speed early sohc 2.5 4:44 5 speed LSD works for me. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quidam Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 05 F 4:44 LSD for example..., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quidam Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) A 2.5 dohc replacement 2.0 dohc would work for me. Like this. Edited January 3, 2016 by Quidam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlainB Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 the JDM WRX mtx from 2001-2004 had a rear Torsen mechanical LSD unlike the USDM VLSD they were also 4.44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3F0 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 http://www.ebay.com/itm/96-97-98-99-SUBARU-LEGACY-OUTBACK-FORESTER-5-SPEED-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-4-44-EJ25-/191803044026?hash=item2ca85a30ba:g:QPQAAOSw~OVWuonR&vxp=mtr JDM Forestor 5 speed good deal prob a very easy swap also I plan on doing this one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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