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Chevrolet owns Subaru?
Posted 10 August 2003 - 09:48 AM
The yen can't be that weak, is it?
Posted 10 August 2003 - 09:57 AM
GM owns 20% of Fuji Heavy Industries - Subarus parent company...and they dont really have a say in what Subarus day to day operations are.
so we wont be seeing anything other then boxer engines...dont worry
Posted 10 August 2003 - 11:17 AM
Posted 10 August 2003 - 12:10 PM
Subaru lost three people to GM and Jeep over the hi-lo issue just in my area...
I wonder if they even read customer feedback.
Posted 10 August 2003 - 01:22 PM
I read somewhere that FHI sold GM 20% to avoid falling under the control of Nissan. (Nissan owns a bank that FHI owed money to or something.) Then Nissan sold GM the other 4%.
I also read that this relationship is allowing Subarus to be sold in parts of the world that previously were devoid of Subies because they can now be sold at GM dealerships. This relationship has also allowed GM to purchase some AWD technology rights from Subaru.
Posted 10 August 2003 - 01:24 PM
Posted 10 August 2003 - 02:15 PM
Anyone have any pics of the tranny, or the console?
Posted 10 August 2003 - 02:29 PM
Here is a pic of the inside of a Australian Legacy with one of them.
<img src="http://home.comcast.net/~c.moe/legacy4wd.jpg" style="border:0;"/>
one more thing, the Baja prototype had a Hi/Lo 5-speed
Posted 10 August 2003 - 02:32 PM
hmm since 4WD and low range are independent of each other... I wonder if you can FWD Low??
Posted 10 August 2003 - 05:22 PM
Posted 10 August 2003 - 05:47 PM
Posted 10 August 2003 - 06:40 PM
Posted 10 August 2003 - 07:06 PM
Given a choice between a Tracker, Hyundai, or Kia micro-SUV at a price $4-6,000 less than a new Forester (with better warranties) the new herd of Generation Guess opts for the lower-priced wheels.
Given a choice between a Legacy or Outback (or that hideous -designed-by-the-same-dope-who-gave-you-the-Aztec Baja) or spending $4-6,000 more for an MDX or hopped up Pathfinder or Grand Cherokee, people are swinging that way.
NOW: if Subaru built a simple, no frills family around the 2.5 with a dually AND some hard points for modest "all-terrain" performance as opposed to the present "all-weather" vehicles, they'd absorb more market share.
IMHO, they still make excellent vehicles, but sacrificing genuine off-road capability has hurt them as they move to the target center...that costs them the fringy buyers - and that's where word-of-mouth creates better brand loyalty better than incentives, rebates, deal-of-the-month hooey...
Posted 10 August 2003 - 10:57 PM
Posted 10 August 2003 - 11:12 PM
Posted 10 August 2003 - 11:14 PM
Anyway, I'd have to agree with Subazoo. I don't want something fancy. I love the simple and functional design of the Loyale. I don't care about curves... I want power windows, locks, mirrors. I want to be able to have a car simple/roomy enough for me to work on myself. I want that 4wd... hi/lo would be great, too, though I'm settling for the pushbutton in the Loyale.
A more powerful engine would be nice, though... I'm tired of getting passed every time I'm accelerating to highway speeds...
Posted 11 August 2003 - 06:10 AM
Sep - 415
Oct - 881
Nov - 606
Dec - 566
Jan - 642
Note that Subaru's press releases claim about 600 Subaru dealerships
Posted 11 August 2003 - 01:48 PM
Posted 11 August 2003 - 06:43 PM
Posted 11 August 2003 - 09:08 PM
1989 DL Wagon 5spd D/R with LSD
1984 GL Sedan RWD
1982 DL Sedan 4WD
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