heartless Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) Finally got the parts and had the time to do the timing belt job on the new to us 2002 Forester... got all the old stuff out without too many issues, but when I went to install the new tensioner, I discovered the threads in the mounting hole are seriously damaged - somebody apparently way over-torqued it when the belt was done last... (some people should not be allowed to work on cars) so now what do I do? just for clarification purposes - it is the block that is stripped out. Edited July 3, 2016 by heartless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbosubarubrat Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Helicoil or thread insert. With either use loctite. Should be able to get either from any local auto parts store. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 ok, wasnt sure if that would be an acceptable solution or not. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 That part bolts onto the engine. Get a used one from the yard. Easy. Larry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 That part bolts onto the engine. Get a used one from the yard. Easy. Larry Seriously?? I am sorry, but I can NOT afford to just go buy a used engine just like that. Not to mention that Subaru's are not easy to come by in the junk yards around here - they are not nearly as plentiful here as they are in other places. If you were trying to be funny, sorry, but you failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt167 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 He means the tensioner bracket. It bolts to the block, easily replacable.. If you got a spare ej22e, you can use an old style tensioner and bracket if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I'm not certain, but that tensioner bracket 'may' have been superseded by a new design anyway - pretty sure it was on later WRX engines anyway. new bracket from an on-line dealer might be an option, check fredbeansparts.com , subarugenuineparts.com , etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Bracket bolts to the block. 3 bolts and a wiggle and falls off. $38.50 brand new on amazon. https://www.amazon.com/OEM-Subaru-tensioner-Bracket-13156AA052/dp/B00F57PVFW Somebody around here probably has a used one or three. Post in the classifieds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 OMG - Fairtax, you are a life saver! THANK YOU! (and lmdew, i apologize for the rant) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 i have one $30 shipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
987687 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I've had those strip out before, local machine shop heli-coils them for me for like $10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 i have one $30 shipped. I really do appreciate the offer, Larry, but a new one has already been ordered as of last night. Was really hoping to have the car up and running this weekend, but I guess it will have to wait.. why is it that things never quite go the way you plan them to? LOL Oh well - I had also forgotten to get some of the Subaru coolant conditioner before hand, so that got ordered last night as well. I will say that I am really glad I decided not to drive this car before doing the timing service - after pulling the old belt off and inspecting I found a nice crack getting started - about a 1/2 inch long - it wasn't going to last much longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 The wild and wonderful world of auto repair! At least it didn't catch on fire! Was welding a patch in the floor board of a buddy's volvo a few weeks ago and suddenly there was a bunch of smoke billowing up from under the car. Then with a quick puff the smoke turned into a fireball and small fire that quickly grew into a big fire! Turns out I was welding right over top of where the fuel lines run under the car, and they were the black plastic lines, and they melted. The really funny part was we had to watch for a few seconds and decide if it was worth putting the fire out... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 ^^^ HAHAHAHA!!! uh, funny, but, really glad there were no injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share Posted July 5, 2016 @ Fairtax - don't speak too loudly - it ain't over yet! LOL right now just waiting on parts to arrive so we can finish what was started. Was really hoping to be driving it this week, but such is life. So - how many bolts hold that bracket in place? I can only seem to find one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 3 bolts. It's not uncommon for them to strip after a few uses. We have one of them in stock. And they're only like $35 MSRP brand new from Subaru. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdventureSubaru Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 One bolt inside the timing covers, the other two sit above the covers. 12mm. Had to do this for a buddy of mine a couple weeks ago. He installed a cheap Ebay timing kit and the new bolt supplied for the tensioner snapped off. Luckily it was a 96 (non interference) and I had a builder motor in the garage. We cannibalized the bracket and bolt and had him driving in an hour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share Posted July 5, 2016 thanks guys - the one I was seeing is the one inside the cover area - will have to poke around a bit more for the other 2 (i took a look at the part picture and realized that there had to be a couple outside of the cover area - just not easily visible with alternator & AC compressor still in place) hoping to have the part in time to get it installed this coming weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine73 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 This diagram was for a DOHC but I think the bracket is similar if not the same (to maybe give a rough idea of the bolts): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
987687 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 It's part number 5 in that diagram, it's the same part on DOHC or SOHC. It's on the block, has nothing to do with the heads. It's just held on with those 3 bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Also, in case anyone is curious. You can swap that piece between phase 1 and 2 blocks, and convert between the different style tensioners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share Posted July 7, 2016 Thanks for all the info guys. I am currently just waiting on parts/supplies to arrive to hopefully get this wrapped up this weekend. Really hoping I don't have any other stripped holes (what I have done so far seems good) it is good to know that the old style is pretty much interchangeable with the newer style - I have the brand new 'new style' tensioner in the kit, so would just as soon use it vs using a 'used' old style - but it is good to know that worst case scenario i could make that change if I need to. still need to get the cam seals replaced, and torque the water pump (i found the torque sequence and ft/lbs needed already) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted July 9, 2016 Author Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) New tensioner bracket arrived today - yippee! back to work on the Foz tomorrow... only thing i may run into is I may need to get a couple of longer bolts for the bracket - needing these were mentioned in a couple of the reviews for the part... apparently the 2 upper bolt holes are thicker in the new version. shouldn't be too much of a problem however. Also got my coolant conditioner and the new T-stat on Thursday, as well as the new plates & registration. Looking forward to getting this one buttoned up and on the road! Edited July 9, 2016 by heartless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Gotta love that new part smell! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 Gotta love that new part smell! Don't you know it! and yes, I did need to get longer bolts for the new bracket - which one is which should be obvious... and on further inspection the old bracket needed replacing anyway... this is the steel rod the tensioner rides against... pretty worn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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