Robertheil Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I got my loyale wagon running just have to replace a ball joint debating on just swapping the hub from my donor car obviously it's cheaper been thinking if this car lasts me till spring I might try and find an ea81 to swap in place of my 268k mile ea82 the car has 167k I would do an ej swap but I'm mainly looking for a fast turn over as I like to drive this car it always seems to make people venture into on coming traffic on the high way lol I have an annoying vacuum leak I assume it's under the dash when it's warming up with the selector on defrost you can hear a hear a hiss from behind the speedometer until it switches and goes away how many screws are there to take it off and check it out maybe with it off I can get a better look at the cel wire I'm from Sioux Falls South Dakota so if anyone has a ea81 for sale I would be willing to meet up if it's not too far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertheil Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Is there a way to manually select defrost so I don't have to take the dash apart or would I still have to do that it won't go to defrost until the car is warmed up I know the leak is behind the Hvac buttons but everyone I talk to keeps telling me not to take the dash off as it might not go back on contrary to what I've read on the forums and yes I've searched other wise I wouldn't be making posts to find this stuff out and the people I have asked have owned nothing but old subarus the main person is about to buy his first vehicle newer the 91 and the 91 was a loyale he's owned only subarus for 40 or more years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 You can get to the back of the ac controls without removing the entire dash. I have removed and reinstalled a dash. Had no problems, but it's a big project. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertheil Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 I'm going to try and bypass the vacuum system and rig the system to stay on defrost and rig the blend door as it doesn't close all the way with it on defrost you can feel cool air coming from the default vents in the middle it had a nest in it that I still need to clean out somehow still best $250 bucks I've spent I drive it 135 miles a day and have put 3k miles on it already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 If it had mice in it, they often chew up the padding that seals the selector and blend doors. So they wont completely shut off airflow. That is what happened to my 87. I had to remove the dash and disassemble the entire HVAC system to clean and repair the damage. I *hate* mice. I put hardware cloth over the openings in the body to HVAC ports before I put it back together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertheil Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 I'm not sure if it was a nest probably was it didn't smell like a mouse cage like my 91 did but the driver side vent I had to clean this pinkish clothe bits out of it and on the defrost so it's a good chance that it did idk this 92 I can actually run the heat and not want to vomit from the smell it don't smell at all just had the pinkish like clothe at the vent covers the heats really not that bad I just have ocd when it comes to cars lol kinda just drives me nuts I was going to check the cabin filter just haven't gone out to look my 3 year old kid keeps me busy I did notice that after driving in town for 1 1/2 hours it will start to blow super hot and stay that way even when I get on the highway it's not overheating but sometimes the passenger side is colder then the driver side and the blend lever on the Hvac is stiffer in the middle and just feels loose when you move it to hot and cold I also noticed if I play with it up on hot the heat gets hotter i haven't messed with it since and it's pretty good now not as hot as when I drive around for a couple of hours I'm also thinking I might need a coolant flush for the heater core I have a new radiator in it I'm not sure about the thermostat as that came from my 91 and I got that car for free from a family friend that needed timing belts it's just once in a while when running defrost will cool air start coming from the center vents on the dash it will stop sometimes if I mess with the temp setting and I agree mice suck when it comes to these it's one of the most common problems with these cars let them sit a while and they make it they're home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertheil Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 Lol just noticed my wagon looks just like your profile picture except mine has a silver hood when I bought it the guy didn't tell me the hood latch don't latch right so when you close it you have to push down on it so the hood came up on the highway luckily it was raining and my wipers were up when the hood came up so they took the blow and not the windshield but the hood still folded over the top some guy pulled over within seconds and gave me a tie down and I drove 95 miles like that with the original motor knocking away lol it sounded like tin cans dead center of the engine head gaskets were gone and valve covers leaked it used 2 quarts of oil and a half gallon of coolant during the ride home sorry I can go on and on about these cars I can't get enough of them lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertheil Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 If I can see where the blend door cable is I can see if it moves all the way or not I still need to take that clove box off to see how I can rig it to stay on defrost so I can cap the vacuum going to the cabin so the only line will be going to the 4wd and I won't have to worry about the car dropping out of 4wd as where I live I have to use it a lot the local farmer plows the gravel road and sometimes it takes him a few days to get them all plowed the county don't touch these roads as its right on the border of South Dakota and Iowa the road is literally the boarder lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Sounds like maybe just whatever makes the friction for the blend door is worn... it's normal for most of the useful range to be in the top 1/3 to 1/2 of the lever travel. The top 1/4 makes a huge difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rust Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I once did a whole winter with a network of manual strings controlling the heating system, so it can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertheil Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 It just gets annoying were still warm but it could be a lot warmer I just have to get some time to check it out but I may not get time until spring sadly but by then I might be picking up an 85 GL and a 87 my wife is going to kill me but I'll get them for dirt cheap as the guy is the same person who gave me his 91 loyale but he says he don't have vacuum leaks under the dash lol the 85 just creaks but keeps going I'm thinking about doing an ej swap on one but idk all the wiring I've seen from numbchux guide just gets confusing lol it don't really seem like much tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertheil Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 I'll be buying some pre sealed wheel bearings for the front as I get this noise once in a while coming from the right wheel while turning left the tires up front are new and the rears are older the rear left has wear on the outer rim so I'm guessing the bearings are shot I didn't notice any play when I did the ball joint but that was so bad it moved in the socket of the ball joint the previous owner welded the ball joint back together as they pull apart so I couldn't really tell if the bearing was bad so looking at the rear wheel I'm guessing it's shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 What kind of noise? Clicking is usually cvj. I've been driving and maintaining gl and Loyale wagons since 1988 and not once had a bad wheel bearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertheil Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 A cv won't make a rotational rubbing sound and also won't have play in the wheel I checked it last night also my cv was replaced by Subaru last year I have the receipt in my glove box it's definitely not a cv my last loyale had bad cvs and this is not the same noise you may not have had problems with bearings but a bunch of people here on the forums have so has my buddy who's been driving ea body cars for 35 years my older loyale you couldn't turn a corner without clicking in either direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertheil Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 it is definitely a bearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertheil Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 Also the previous owner welded the ball joint back together instead of replacing it and the bearings sound dry you spin the wheel while its jacked up and you can hear it do it to any of the other wheels and nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertheil Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) this car wasn't taken care of by the last person who owned it when it first started knocking the guy put 2quarts of Lucus in it and tried tightening the head bolts because it was leaking oil and coolant also stripped out the oil pan bolts also tried installing a cruise control unit but he gave up Edited December 29, 2016 by Robertheil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertheil Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 I spent 3 days getting this thing to the way it is now lol I drove it 95 miles on 3 cylinders because the check engine light doesn't come on its either burnt out of the guy accidentally pulled the wire out when attempting to install the aftermarket cruise control I didn't care about the engine when I bought it just the body I still need to try and find shifter bushings as they are shot also the return spring is missing so there's a lot of slop but I still drive this car 135 miles a day I've put 6k miles on it in 2 months lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertheil Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 Even if all it is is a worn cone washer I'll still replace the bearings and you have even commented on other people's posts about failed wheel bearings on ea cars just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it don't happen as I'm sure you have read the posts about them they may usually last the life of the car as most say but other things can cause a bearing to fail and like I've said this car hasn't been taken care of and I don't mind working on it so my labor is just that lol the wheel only makes noise after it gets wet so I bet water has been getting inside it a few other people have had this problem herein South Dakota we use a lot of salt and corrosive liquid chemicals to melt the snow and ice they put it down as a preventive measure they put it down if there's a chance of snow it's a waste and it's nasty for vehicles here I just did tie rods on a 06 Pacifica body looks great under body is riddled with rust the Subaru dealership here don't carry or order any parts for ea model subarus as there is hardly any on the road there is one restored justy and 3 Gls and my loyale they don't last here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I live in ct, lots of corrosives used here. I've lost many cars due to body rotting out. Only trying to help, need info, have to ask questions. I'm not there and can't hear the noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertheil Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 Understandable I'm going to be doing both sides it's just a bummer that Subaru here don't have any part numbers and are pretty unwilling to help with these older cars the response from the parts guy was to get a newer model instead of fixing something outdated lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertheil Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 I do apologize if I had an attitude I was at work when I posted back last night and just stupid people they cut our hours Monday your help is appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 The bearings are just normal ball bearings. I might have one with a readable number on it. Any decent industrial bearing supply house should have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertheil Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 Wow times on this are all wrong I went to sleep at 2am lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertheil Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 The ones I found are 10 bucks each Skf deep groove 62072RS C3 35x72x17mm it's what others recommend getting from bearing suppliers we don't have one local but I'm used to ordering everything online anyway I just need to look for the part numbers for the cone washers and other parts and see if the dealership can find them that way they are able to see the parts but can't order them due to they have no idea the part numbers for any of the parts I need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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