Jump to content


Welcome to Ultimate Subaru Message Board, my lurker friend!

Welcome to Ultimate Subaru Message Board, an unparalleled Subaru community full of the greatest Subaru gurus and modders on the planet! We offer technical information and discussion about all things Subaru, the best and most popular all wheel drive vehicles ever created.

We offer all this information for free to everyone, even lurkers like you! All we ask in return is that you sign up and give back some of what you get out - without our awesome registered users none of this would be possible! Plus, you get way more great stuff as a member! Lurk to lose, participate to WIN*!
  • Say hello and join the conversation
  • Subscribe to topics and forums to get automatic updates
  • Get your own profile and make new friends
  • Classifieds with all sorts of Subaru goodies
  • Photo hosting in our gallery
  • Meet other cool people with cool cars
Seriously, what are you waiting for? Make your life more fulfilling and join today! You and your Subaru won't regret it, we guarantee** it.

* The joy of participation and being generally awesome constitutes winning
** Not an actual guarantee, but seriously, you probably won't regret it!

Serving the Subaru Community since May 18th, 1998!

Guest Message by DevFuse
 

Photo
- - - - -

Weber ???


  • Please log in to reply
13 replies to this topic

#1 XSNRG

XSNRG

    Elite Master of the Subaru

  • Members
  • 3,657 posts
  • Olympia

Posted 15 June 2004 - 07:56 AM

I have a weber DGAV, what is the diff between this and the DGEV or other models?

#2 edrach

edrach

    RIP 6/28/14

  • Members
  • 12,326 posts
  • Bothell, WA

Posted 15 June 2004 - 08:29 AM

I believe the difference is the type of automatic choke--AV is the water choke, EV is the electric choke. Check out the Haynes manual of weber carbs if you can find one; it's pretty informative.

#3 Flowmastered87GL

Flowmastered87GL

    WCSS Drunk

  • Members
  • 6,094 posts
  • Portland, Oregon

Posted 15 June 2004 - 12:00 PM

www.carbsunlimited.com has some specs on the carbs... I may even order a DFEV from them, the prices seem better than local...

Yes I belive AV is either a manual or water choke...

#4 GeneralDisorder

GeneralDisorder

    Elite Master of the Subaru

  • Members
  • 20,280 posts
  • Portland

Posted 15 June 2004 - 12:10 PM

Actually it's basically meaningless. You have to actually lay eyes on the carb to tell what it is. The stampings on the carb mean next to nothing. I bought a brand new carb from Redline that has the stamp of "DGAV" on it. But it's clearly an electric choke model, and thus really should be stamped "DGEV". The choke's are easily interchangeable and cheap anyway, so it doesn't matter much. What you really have is a 32/36 DGV "series" carb, and it can *be* any type of choke you want.

GD

#5 XSNRG

XSNRG

    Elite Master of the Subaru

  • Members
  • 3,657 posts
  • Olympia

Posted 22 June 2004 - 11:00 PM

That makes sense, it is an electric choke model. Thanks

#6 the sucker king

the sucker king

    great fisherman

  • Members
  • 1,914 posts
  • Lyons, Colorado

Posted 23 June 2004 - 02:43 AM

. I bought a brand new carb from Redline that has the stamp of "DGAV" on it. But it's clearly an electric choke model, and thus really should be stamped "DGEV".

GD


is it possible that the "new" carb from redline was actually a reman and they put an electric choke on it? it wouldn't make sense that the stamps mean nothing.

#7 GeneralDisorder

GeneralDisorder

    Elite Master of the Subaru

  • Members
  • 20,280 posts
  • Portland

Posted 23 June 2004 - 04:55 AM

Doubtful - others have complained of this too. The problem is the carbs are no longer made in Italy - they are made cheaply in Mexico where little things like casting marks mean little to them. If you saw the quality of the rest of the redline "kit" you would understand. It's WAY below what I expected for the inflated, rediculous price I paid.

Besides that I doubt redline is interested in remaning a cheap peice of aluminium when they can just press out another one. The time and work involved in measureing and re-bushing all the little passages and throttle bore's and such is too expensive. It's easier to buy scrap aluminium and just make new castings.

GD

#8 bigjim5551212

bigjim5551212

    USMB is life!

  • Members
  • 191 posts
  • Vancouver Canada

Posted 23 June 2004 - 10:17 AM

Ok, If you look at my posts from before, I have all the info for Webers. There are no "rebuilt" Webers. I would not reccomend the 32/36 DFEV. The linkage is reversed to the DG series and it flows less air.

DGV-manual choke
DGAV-Water Choke

There is no Weber stamped 32/36 DGEV. All electric choke Webers started life as a water choke. They were converted somewhere down the line.

I will post my other report in the next window.

#9 bigjim5551212

bigjim5551212

    USMB is life!

  • Members
  • 191 posts
  • Vancouver Canada

Posted 23 June 2004 - 10:25 AM

Used Weber Carbs - Where to look
Ok, for all you guys that hunt JY's. If you are going to look for a Weber Carb, this is what you should look for. First I will mark the cars and trucks, and then the model of carbs. I will be pleased to tell you if the carb is worthwhile if you find something else. I have the repair kits available.

Vehicles
Datsun/Nissan - carbureted trucks and cars pre 1986 L, Z, A, E series engines
Toyota - Corolla pre 87, Celica-pre 81, Land Cruiser 80's and earlier, Pickups pre-88
Mazda - B2600, B2200 trucks. Most cars had people that didnt care about performance other than rotaries
Suzuki - 1300 Samurai
Mitsubishi/Dodge D50 - carbureted pickups, Raiders, Colt front drives
BMW - 2002 with 2 barrel manifolds (best place to find Webers)
Opel - Opel GT
Volvo-non fuel injection cars (144, 122)
Jeep-CJ, Wrangler with 258 motor
Ford - Old Cortina mark 1 (1967?)

Carbs to use
32/36 DGV (manual choke), 32/36 DGAV (auto choke), 32 DGAV, 32 DGV
38 DGAS Maximum performance, mileage will be lower
36 DCD, 28/36 DCD

Questionable carbs
Holley 5200/Weber 32/36 DFAV - linkage reversed to DGV series, most Holleys have linkage that is not bolted on and some have non changeable idle jets, throttle shafts wear easy
Fiat Webers, DMSA series harder to get parts, linkage reversed, 1800 carbs will not fit adaptor
Renault Webers DIR series- same as Fiat

If you are handy, and have access to parts, the Renault and Fiat carbs will work OK



#10 Flowmastered87GL

Flowmastered87GL

    WCSS Drunk

  • Members
  • 6,094 posts
  • Portland, Oregon

Posted 23 June 2004 - 11:49 AM

for the recommendation against the DFEV... I just recently swapped to one from a DGEV for the very reason that the carb is backwards. On EA82's with power steering its by FAR the best way to go. Sure you lose a little power, but you gain a little mileage.

Besides, since my throttle cable is no longer ghetto rigged I can now lay on it fully without fear of breaking it (had to go gentle at last rallycross)

Now its foot to the floor! :brow:

#11 bigjim5551212

bigjim5551212

    USMB is life!

  • Members
  • 191 posts
  • Vancouver Canada

Posted 23 June 2004 - 09:21 PM

If the 32/36 DFAV works for PS on EA82, then it is time to search for...........


Holley 5200 (Motorcraft as well) with thread on linkage and changeable idle jets.
Be careful, there are some Chevettes with a miniature Holley 5200 that has barrels just big enough for your pinkie.

#12 Oregonboy1

Oregonboy1

    USMB Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 85 posts
  • Billings

Posted 24 June 2004 - 12:35 AM

So....which one would you recommend for an EA81 wagon? The DGV (manual choke) or the DGEV (electric choke)?

I'm looking to buy one (new) and I'm not sure which one to get, and where to get it from...

#13 bigjim5551212

bigjim5551212

    USMB is life!

  • Members
  • 191 posts
  • Vancouver Canada

Posted 24 June 2004 - 09:57 AM

Its what you want. Do you want manual or electric choke. The kit is about $469US plus about $15 for shipping for an electric choke kit. Thats the price we have. If you are interested call me at 604-879-6288.

#14 GeneralDisorder

GeneralDisorder

    Elite Master of the Subaru

  • Members
  • 20,280 posts
  • Portland

Posted 24 June 2004 - 12:53 PM

Jeez - $469? I can get them local for $375....

GD




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users