holmes47905 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I went to back out of my garage and the car suddenly stopped and recoiled a little. I've had a front wheel bearing going out and thought it must be that. I jacked it up and that wheel would turn although it was sluggish. One post suggested the emergency brake so I jacked one of the rear wheels up and it wasn't the brake but I was able to get it moving by working it front and back till it broke loose. With the manuel transmission in nutueral the drive shaft rotates when I turn the wheel. I put it back on the ground it coasted backwards about five feet and locked again. Is it my differential or perhaps in the transaxle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt167 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Parking brake shoe linings came apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmes47905 Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 I'll check them thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferret Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) 2002 manual, does it have the HILLHOLDER ?If it does, the return spring is known for breaking locking a front wheel and opposite rear wheel. Hillholder is located under the hood, on the drivers side, mounted on the frame rail just below and to the front of the Master Cylinder, Spring is NOT a Subaru part, but the entire hill holder is and it's not cheap. Quick fix is to back-off the adjusting nut on the cable coming from the clutch pedal until it has NO effect, Then zip tie the Hillholder in place as if the clutch is NOT depressed. Unless you can find one in a junkyard and just get the return spring from it. Edited August 27, 2017 by ferret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2002 manual, does it have the HILLHOLDER ? If it does, the return spring is known for breaking locking a front wheel and opposite rear wheel. Hillholder is located under the hood, on the drivers side, mounted on the frame rail just below and to the front of the Master Cylinder, Spring is NOT a Subaru part, but the entire hill holder is and it's not cheap. Quick fix is to back-off the adjusting nut on the cable coming from the clutch pedal until it has NO effect, Then zip tie the Hillholder in place as if the clutch is NOT depressed. Unless you can find one in a junkyard and just get the return spring from it. after 96 hillholder only operates one front wheel. And he would have to pump brakes while pressing in clutch to set it. Once the clutch pedal was released it would release. Doesn't really sound like his issue if it rolled for 5 feet then stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmes47905 Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 I don't think it has a hill holder. I didn't see anything under the hood where you said to look. As far as brake shoes are concerned it has disk brakes on the back. I checked the pads and they're holding together. I managed to get it out of the garage by lifting and wiggling the wheel a couple more times and was able to coast it down the drive way with everything turned off. I started it and went front and back enough to park it on the curb. I have it up on jack stands with both back wheels off the ground and it's pretty hard to turn the hub with the transmission in nuteral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmes47905 Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 I haven't worked with an emergency brake like this before. Are there separate shoes for the Ebrakes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subaru Scott Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I haven't worked with an emergency brake like this before. Are there separate shoes for the Ebrakes? Yep, inside the disc/drum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmes47905 Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 ok I just watched a you tube video on it. It's nice to know you have 2 separate brakes on each back wheel. the more I learn about Subarus the more I like them. Checking the pads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forester2002s Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Those (small) brake-shoes for the parking-brake last a long time. After all, they don't see much wear as they are normally set when the vehicle is stationary. But over time, the brake-linings can separate (get unglued) from the steel shoe. Never had one lock-up the wheel though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmes47905 Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 Parking brake shoes are thin but staying together. Both wheels are off the ground and brakes removed and it's still really hard to rotate the hubs. Is there a carrier bearing on the drive shaft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt167 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Those (small) brake-shoes for the parking-brake last a long time. After all, they don't see much wear as they are normally set when the vehicle is stationary. But over time, the brake-linings can separate (get unglued) from the steel shoe. Never had one lock-up the wheel though. I've seen it on other vehicles multiple times.. It can hit hard enough that you think you hit something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt167 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Parking brake shoes are thin but staying together. Both wheels are off the ground and brakes removed and it's still really hard to rotate the hubs. Is there a carrier bearing on the drive shaft? There is a carrier bearing, but a carrier bearing likely wouldn't do what you describe. You likely have an issue with the differential or transmission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Unbolt the driveshaft from the rear diff and see if it still has the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 One of the diff is probably bad. Front, rear, or center. Or trans itself. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 how is the car used? drive thru any very high water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) Are both wheels not turning? Is the wheel supposed to turn? Depending what combination of brake, shifter location, type of diffs, and which wheels off the ground, a given wheel may not turn when jacked up. Disconnect the driveshaft from the rear diff. It's only 4 12mm bolts. Then see if the wheels turn. Assuming both rear wheels aren't turning. If they still don't turn then your issue is with the rear diff. If it does turn then it's the driveshaft (unlikely), center VLSD or transmission Edited August 28, 2017 by idosubaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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