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key broke off in loyale ingition!


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#1 Jman1991

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 08:04 PM

I went to start my 1993 loyale 5 speed wagon and the key snapped right off in the ignition! thank God it was in front of my house. None the less this is a shame and I need to be able to start my car.

 

If anyone can give me advise on how to get this broken key out I would really appreciate it, (I have a spare key, so if I could get the old one out I would be in good shape.)



#2 DaveT

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 09:40 PM

I never had this problem...   Maybe a dental pick?  Maybe a fish hook unbent and the end ground so the little barb can sneak in and grab?  Make sure the wheel lock isn't holding against the key turning.



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Posted 11 November 2017 - 09:51 PM

I think the only way to remove the key is to remove the ignition switch from the column.  Fairly sure then the switch can be taken apart.  



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Posted 11 November 2017 - 09:51 PM

I was going to suggest a dental pick. Short of that you might have to remove the lock cylinder and open it up on the bench.


Edited by Crazyeights, 12 November 2017 - 05:45 AM.


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Posted 11 November 2017 - 10:27 PM

I'm not sure how to remove the lock cylinder. 

 

but I will definitely try using some kind of a pick or thin wire and a magnet and see if I can finagle it out.

it broke about halfway down on the key so I'm sure it will be a real challenge!

 

thank you for the suggestions  



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Posted 11 November 2017 - 10:36 PM

Oh, that's nasty...  A magnet will do nothing, keys are not steel or iron.



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Posted 11 November 2017 - 10:38 PM

Actually, this is a good thing to notice - make copies of your keys, now.  Save the original as a master, never use it.

When the copy starts showing signs of wear, take the master, and get a new copy.



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Posted 11 November 2017 - 11:26 PM

@DaveT

 

No wonder I've never had any luck with that method :D 


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Posted 12 November 2017 - 08:17 AM

I'm not sure how to remove the lock cylinder. 

 

 

Remove the plastic cover behind the steering wheel.  Then remove the 2 headless bolts.  Headless?  It's a security thing.  Not very tight. Slot the bolts and use a screwdriver to remove or use a left-handed drill bit to spin them out. 



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Posted 12 November 2017 - 08:01 PM

You might be able to use the end of the broken key to start it i dont know if it would come out even if you pulled the cylinder you might have to go the screwdriver in the key hole method or buy a new cylinder and key sometimes the cylinders are open on the back sometimes there not my vw bus has never had keys since ive owned nither has my scout it i just never lock them and have a secondary ignition switch and no stearing lock in 15 years it hasent been a issue on ether rig



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Posted 13 November 2017 - 10:36 AM

Call a locksmith. They'll be able to pull it out without damaging the lock or key, and they'll be able to cut you a new key from the broken piece.



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Posted 13 November 2017 - 01:58 PM

I suggest tiling the car on its side...... Jk but on a serious note when my old key broke off deep in the cylinder I lowered down the steering column, disconnected the shaft and put it on a bench flat with key facing down. A few light taps with a rubber mallet knocked it out. Sometimes this works others it wont. I'd rather spend 20 mins attempting to knock it out rather than paying a locksmith an hourly rate.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 09:02 AM

I actually had this happen on a 92 legacy. If you can makeshift a very small piece of wire with a slight hook at the end you may be able to get it down the side where the key cutout is and jimmy it up to get ahold of it. I cant recall exactly what I used to make my "keyhook" but I do remember it was a pain and took some patience to get it out.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 09:25 AM

i've noticed the GL/Loyale OEM keys are made out of softer metal that can just twist if you try to open a paint can with it, yes i know let me go slap myself for doing that to an old subaru key, but seems that Subaru knew about this and improved greatly on the legacy and impreza keys.

 

-if it was an aftermarket key, don't know on the quality of those...


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Posted 15 November 2017 - 09:56 AM

All of the oem and copies I have are brass, which is a common metal for keys. The Subaru ones are a little.on the thinner / narrower side, so they can wear out in less than 20 years... Some profiles are quicker to wear than others also.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 11:48 AM

Get a shop vacuum or call up your old girl friend who could suck start a leaf blower.



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Posted 20 November 2017 - 09:56 PM

well I made a hook with a peace of 1mm steel wire... that didn't work at all so then I went ahead and removed the lock cylinder and still couldn't get the key out. so at this point I think my next move will be to go to the scrap yard and pull a lock cylinder off another loyale then pay a locksmith to make a key for it and then finally install it onto my car.

hopefully that will work.



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Posted 20 November 2017 - 11:42 PM

Now that the lock cylinder is out you might be able to move the tumblers unuff  to get the key out






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