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96 legacy manual swap
Posted 17 February 2018 - 04:08 AM
Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:57 AM
You need the matching rear diff, and possibly the axles. Drive shaft flywheel clutch etc (or get new)
As for wiring, they're all the same. Reverse lights, and if you want the neutral safety to work correctly. You'll have to wire in a relay for the starter (at least that's what I ended up doing)
Edited by golucky66, 17 February 2018 - 08:58 AM.
Posted 17 February 2018 - 11:26 AM
Getting another car is likely the easiest option. Best to buy a whole car to swap parts from. Try www.car-part.com to see what years/models are compatible.
Edited by Mike104, 17 February 2018 - 11:27 AM.
Posted 17 February 2018 - 12:44 PM
The automatic is more reliable, less maintenance, gets the same economy, and it's computer is light-years ahead of the manual in terms of traction control.
If you just like playing with sticks - I get it. Johnson Rod's can make fun toys. But don't denegrate the auto - it's an EXCELLENT transmission.
Edited by GeneralDisorder, 20 February 2018 - 07:02 PM.
Posted 17 February 2018 - 02:27 PM
you will hate the manual AWD trans first time you got one wheel spinning in deep snow and can't go anywhere. Doesn't matter front or back, one wheel spinning = done with a standard AWD (DCCD 6 speed and modified/heavy duty vsld setups excluded))
The 4EAT (auto) will walk you out as long as you"ve got 2 wheels at an either end with grip. And will crawl better over rough steep terrain too.
Posted 17 February 2018 - 03:36 PM
Center console to clean up interior and instrument cluster are ideal. Cruise computer if you want that to work.
+1. MTs, particularly converting to one are a slap in your own face. Less reliable, more costly, harder to find, more maintenance, more expensive, with almost no redeeming quality except in the head which we all have weak spots for. And you can pop the clutch on a dead battery that is nifty. needing a tiny little stick to move around for fun or an ego boost....you can do better than that! Play a video game while driving.
Posted 21 February 2018 - 05:05 PM
I'm not knocking the transmission or any other part of my legacy by any means . Its just not nearly as fun to drive is all. IMO of course, gentlemen.
Posted 21 February 2018 - 05:50 PM
Posted 21 February 2018 - 06:08 PM
Posted 21 February 2018 - 06:26 PM
Good for you. Stick to moving up, rather than spending time with lateral moves that accomplish nothing.
Posted 22 February 2018 - 11:35 AM
ATs are for the birds. MT all day.
Tell that to all the drag racers running powerglides with 3000 to 5000 HP in front of them.
I like a manual as much as the next guy - STi's wouldn't be the same without their 6 speed. But auto's have their place. The military uses exclusively automatics - because they are more reliable, less maintenance, less training, and can be driven easier by a wounded soldier.
Edited by GeneralDisorder, 22 February 2018 - 11:36 AM.
Posted 22 February 2018 - 04:41 PM
That very last statement "...by a wounded..." is the only reason we have an AT in our fleet of eight vehicles (Well, the EA81T hardtop is still AT, but not for long). Two dislocated shoulders and one ruptured ACL in the last 5 years has proven this to be a necessary evil.
Also, this 10,000 hp top fuel dragster uses a 5-disc clutch and direct drive. ATs eat power and when your margin of victory is sometimes in the ten-thousandths of a second, every horse counts: http://www.motoiq.co...wer-Part-2.aspx
Edited by carfreak85, 22 February 2018 - 04:48 PM.
Posted 22 February 2018 - 05:32 PM
Yeah - but top fuel doesn't use transmissions - they just use clutches. That's not exactly comparable. There's no gears, thus no gear shift, thus the whole argument about them being more "fun" is really kind of baseless. Most people would not have much fun in a top fuel car. Mostly they would scream in fear like a little girl.
The guy's running the 'glide are street legal.
Edited by GeneralDisorder, 22 February 2018 - 05:33 PM.
Posted 23 February 2018 - 03:45 AM
Make the auto fun. Watch the opposite light at an intersection, when it goes yellow stand on your brakes with your left foot and floor the gas with your right with the trans in D. The engine will hit stall speed on the torque converter and when your light goes green you sidestep off the brake pedal. There weren't many commuter cars that could holeshot as quick as an old outback 2.5 with 4.44 gears when launched like that. Of course after it shifts to 2nd the acceleration's over, but hey being snappy of the line catches people by surprise.
Wire in a 4x4 lock switch and it will handle much better when sliding around in dirt or snow. Also makes it easier to hang out sideways. FWD mode is fun too if you want to waste some tires.
I've swapped a car to 5spd, but that was only after reverse failed in the auto. It's pretty straight forward. But I don't see much advantage to it.
Posted 23 February 2018 - 01:22 PM
Yeah, gotta say the autos seem stupidly dependable. 190k+ on my 95' and shifts like a car with an 1/8 of the mileage. I remember auto GM cars in the late 90's with 70-80k miles coming into a trans shop I did removals at with completely burnt trans fluid and needing complete overhauls.
Maybe try and find one with a MT and take it for a test drive to see if it's something you'd like. Or get a WRX, etc.
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