pitscars Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Hi all - A friend has a 2008 Forester turbo - badly cooked engine - can I easily fit a non turbo engine ? (cheaper + more available) or must it be an identical motor ? Cheers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) No. That's an AVCS twin-cam turbo. The ECU will not be able to run the NA engines. They haven't got the right cam sensors. Additionally - used EJ255's aren't worth having. Just rebuild his engine or buy a new one from Subaru. He needs to understand that his engine is essentially the same as an STi and needs to be treated with the same respect or it will (has) take a giant $hit on him. Best to sell it to someone that understands this. These are delicate machines making well over 100 HP per liter and require excellent maintenance and a watchful eye. GD Edited May 9, 2018 by GeneralDisorder 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike104 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 "These are delicate machines making well over 100 HP per liter and require excellent maintenance and a watchful eye". Definately why I am not a big fan of turbos for me. I don't need that power and am not interested in the extra work to maintain it. All fine and good for those that want that power but as mentioned needs to be well treated and maintained. I've noticed that a lot of newer cars seem to have gone to 2.0 L engines with turbos and am wondering how they will fare in the long run with people that can't figure out to check their oil, use synthetic, change it often and use proper cool down technique after running the car hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 The 2L turbo setup of other manufacturers are most likely to fit in with wrc class reason. Best of luck with the rebuild! Cheers Bennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitscars Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 Apparently the radiator was somehow damaged and not noticed by the lady owner - cooked good and proper - heads gone soft - bottom end questionable - only one second hand engine found in Queensland (1000s of kms away) for $6000.00 ----- an AVCS EJ204 non turbo motor wont fit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike104 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) . Edited May 15, 2018 by Mike104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Apparently the radiator was somehow damaged and not noticed by the lady owner - cooked good and proper - heads gone soft - bottom end questionable - only one second hand engine found in Queensland (1000s of kms away) for $6000.00 ----- an AVCS EJ204 non turbo motor wont fit ? I have no idea. We didn't get those. Maybe but I wouldn't count on it without significant modifications. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitscars Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 So it would seem that it is a catch 22 situation - a car that should be fixed - but is not worth fixing --- it will probably end up in my dead car pit - ratted for a few parts - and end up in the crusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike104 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 So it would seem that it is a catch 22 situation - a car that should be fixed - but is not worth fixing --- it will probably end up in my dead car pit - ratted for a few parts - and end up in the crusher. Sadly that happens many times at least here in North America. Car is deemed to expensive to fix (paying for shop rate) but too nice for a crusher. Often they get sold to auto wreckers, stripped of parts and then crushed. Often I see cars with bad engines/transmissions that an individual could have fixed and had a nice car much cheaper than buying new one. Always amazes me that people will abandon a car because it needs a couple of thousand dollars in repairs and then turn around and spend 10's of thousands on a new car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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