WoodsWagon Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 where should I take the audio feed for a seperate amplifier on a 92 legacy radio w/ tape? I was considering splicing off the rear speaker wires, but i know this isn't line level, and I wasn't sure how the amp would handle it. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lothar34 Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 where should I take the audio feed for a seperate amplifier on a 92 legacy radio w/ tape? I was considering splicing off the rear speaker wires, but i know this isn't line level, and I wasn't sure how the amp would handle it. Any suggestions? Well if the radio doesn't have preamp outputs, then that's your only option. You can get adapters: http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=269-325 http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=265-025 but they're not as good as having a preamp output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubaSkeet Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 out of curiosity, why do you want the stock tape deck? wouldnt a diff. head unit allow a better sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradosubarules Posted October 5, 2004 Share Posted October 5, 2004 If you want to retain your factory deack but use your rear speakers output as the input on your amplifier, you have two choices. 1. Find an amp with speaker level imputs (high imput) 2. Go to wal-mart or radio shack and purchase a Line livel converter. They aren't expensive and will serve your purpous. Be sure to pick-up an RCA patch cable while you are there to run from your converter to the amp. I know for a fact that wal-mart sells an amp install kit for about $12.00 and it comes with all the wires and connectors you will need. (converter not included) Hope this helps. (I am an MECP certified installer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodsWagon Posted October 18, 2004 Author Share Posted October 18, 2004 The stock tape deck is out of a legacy, and is a great improvement over the Loyale's tapeless radio. It was also free. I am too cheap to burn cash on a headunit with lots of lights. My amp is a booster amp with equalizer that I found on the side of the road. It appears to have speaker level inputs, but they do nothin when hooked up to the speaker wires. The amp (only one channel, the other is shorted and now has the power transistors dissconnected) works with line level hooked up to its RCA connector. The whole system is verry low budget, with me making my own custom boxes out of 1/2" particle. It will kick arse and will not rattle like a cheap tin can. Thanks very much for the advise on the line level converters. How do they work and how well do they work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradosubarules Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 It is basically a volume control. No matter how much you crank it up, it keeps it a a lower level that will not toast the line level inputs on an amp or EQ. I actually found one (very expensive one from when I was an installer) in my garage. You can have it if you pay the shipping. Shoot me an e-mail and we can set something up. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lothar34 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Thanks very much for the advise on the line level converters. How do they work and how well do they work? The passive ones (like the links I gave) work better with low-power head units, so they should be fine for what you've got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodsWagon Posted October 20, 2004 Author Share Posted October 20, 2004 I took the radio back out of the dash, and it has a circular type 13 pin one index connector. Posibly what i have heard refered to as DIN type? Could this be used as a source for line level? I assume that it was for a CD player to hook into, but I'm not sure. Could I feed the PS2 output into the radio amp this way? What actually runs around around on this plug? Sorry, I'm clueless as to the standardized setups of audio systems and have been using the poke it with the meter and see what hapens approach, which I feel may wreak havoc if used on this plug. I'm interested in the line level converter otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradosubarules Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 The DIN connector is used for the optional CD player ONLY. If you want the converter just shoot me and e-mail and I will send it to you. It is easy to install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodsWagon Posted October 20, 2004 Author Share Posted October 20, 2004 What signals run through the DIN cable? I can get a patch cable, cut it and splice in what I need if appropriate. This would make it easier to set up the audio feed for the PlayStation 2. If any Audio signals come back out of the DIN cable, then maybe I could use them to feed the amp? Thanks very much for your experienced advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradosubarules Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 Good luck getting a wiring diagram for that DIN plug. I think you are better off using the LLC. If you wish to run your PS2's audio out into your stereo, you might want to reconsider your head unit. I just bought a Panasonic MP3/CD/Sirius setup with remote for $125.00 and it has ext input for an additional audio source. If you do not want to go this route you could get an A/B switch from the shack that controls Audio components and use this to switch from the output of your deck to the output of your PS2. You would be left with a volumn (gain) dilema but this could be remedied with volume knob switches from the scack with some phono (RCA) ends attached to control the left and right channels. OR...You could buy an amp with a remote gain control that mounts to the dash and you could control the gain (volume) from the dash for the amp. I am just assuming you will be running an amp to power ALL your speakers. You could run 2 amps. (1) 4 channel amp for your mids and highs and (1) mono or stereo am with crossover for your lows (subs). I could go for a sub right now. A philly cheesesteak... What was I saying? Oh yeah....keep me informed and I will help you anyway I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodsWagon Posted October 21, 2004 Author Share Posted October 21, 2004 The amp i will run is a strange booster amp from maybe the 80's that has 4 speaker outputs, a fader knob, a volume knob, and an analog equalizer. Only half of it works right now, something shorted and melted the power transistors on the right channel and it tried to do the same thing to the replacements that I soldered in, to be diagnosed when I get the motivation and time. I'm going to hook up the speaker wires so that onepair feeds the woofers while the other feeds the midrange an tweeter through the crossover. This will let me use the fader to controll how much power goes to the woofer vs. the higher range speakers. I was thinking that I could put in two double throw switches, one left channel, one right, to switch the signal feeding the amp's RCA connectors from the rear radio speakers to the PS2 output. The headunit will still run th door speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradosubarules Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 And I thought I was the king of rigging stuff. I crown you the new king or RIG! Now rig up your crown. Still want that LLC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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