mark786 Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 My 1998 Legacy Outback has recently started shuddering when pulling out from a dead stop but only with the wheels turned to either side. My guess is that this is being caused by the CV joints or knuckle joints on the drive axles. As a result I am planning on replacing the drive axles. Do you agree with this assesment? Thanks for your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 check out this thread http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22747 If you have an automatic, put a fuse in the FWD fuse holder to see if the problem goes away. If it does, it's transmission related, not cv axle related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark786 Posted October 10, 2004 Author Share Posted October 10, 2004 Thanks for the tip. I gave it a try and the studdering problem goes away. Now my question is "Why?" If the fuse forces it into front wheel drive why would that eleviate the problem rather than making it more pronounced? Also, how long can I run it in FWD and, of course, what is my next step? New tranny? check out this threadhttp://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22747 If you have an automatic, put a fuse in the FWD fuse holder to see if the problem goes away. If it does, it's transmission related, not cv axle related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 has something to do with the center clutch package begin ill maintainted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 assumeing you are not referring to orgasm, I would check to see if the tires are all the same diameter first. They have to be extremely close and this is the cheapest thing to fix. Lots of posts on this if you do a search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 As cookie mentioned, check your tires. Subaru says that the circumfirence needs to be within 1/4" between all tires. If your tires are ok, then first thing I'd suggest is changing the transmission fluid. Old fluid can sometimes cause contamination or issues with the rear clutch pack. If that doesn't help, you'll most likely need to have the rear clutch pack worked on / rebuilt. The automatic's AWD system is controlled by the trans computer. It has a rear housing with clutch packs in there. A duty solenoid controls line pressure to the clutch packs, which in turn varies how much power goes to the rear wheels. When you put the fuse in, it sends a constant 12v source to that solenoid which pretty much closes it, and sends very little to no power to the rear wheels. It's not a good idea to run too long with the fuse in, because the solenoid is designed to get a pulsed signal from the TCU, rather then a constant signal. So you could prematurely wear out the duty c solenoid. here's scans from the factory manuals of the auto's awd system http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8080/subaru_manual_scans/FSM_Scans/AWD_transfer_system1.jpg http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8080/subaru_manual_scans/FSM_Scans/AWD_transfer_system2.jpg http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8080/subaru_manual_scans/FSM_Scans/AWD_transfer_system3.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidv Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 the link legacy777 referred to was mine about a week ago... tried the easiest possible solution first- the different diameter tire situation. found tire pressure was different in all four. filled them to similiar psi- no studdering since. hopefully this is it! thanks to all for the advice. mahalo from maui. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark786 Posted October 13, 2004 Author Share Posted October 13, 2004 You guys are the BEST! Changed out the tranny fluid and the shuddering disappeared like magic. I haven't checked the tire sizes yet. On that point, am I looking at wheel diameter or circumference? One post mentions diameter and one mentions circumference. Either way I guess I'll be buy tires four at a time now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 tire circumfirence is what you're looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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