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[carfreak85]

Why would they use the EA81 block for testing when they already had the EA82 which was set up for overhead cams? It just doesn't make sense. I'll look at it today and ask the current prof who was a student there (I beleive).

[Dr. RX]

Why would they use the EA81 block for testing when they already had the EA82 which was set up for overhead cams? It just doesn't make sense. I'll look at it today and ask the current prof who was a student there (I beleive).

No, at the time WWU got the contract, the EA82 was aready in development. When Dr. Seal went to Japan, the EA82 was already in production. So WWU used that EA81 as a start for the next gen OHC engines for Subaru, if you look at the belt layout, you'll see something similar to the EJ single belt design, not the two belt design of the EA82. If there would have been a couple of extra sets of OHC EA81 heads, I would have gotten them to create a duplicate engine for the road, but he couldn't find them, he thought that they might have gotten sent to Japan. Dr Seal is not too good at the Subaru engine numbering system, but when I showed him the differences in the EA82 and EJ series engine, he pointed to the EJ series and told me that was the one that they did the work on.

[ausubaru92]

Turbo Carb?????

How easy is this to do??

can it be done with a stock carb?


BTW... this car looked awesome, i want it

[NorthWet]

Turbo Carb?????

How easy is this to do??

can it be done with a stock carb?


BTW... this car looked awesome, i want it

Yes, this can be done. It has been done for at least 40 years in cars. It has drawbacks and compromises as compared with EFI, which is why most use EFI. There was a recent (December?) thread on this.

The thing that would discourage me the most is the possiblity of a backfire, especially with a draw-through application where there is a lot of pressurized combustable mixture sitting under your hood.

[SkankinPickle]

here's some more pics that corky posted about a year ago...
http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/photos/showphoto.php?photo=829&sort=1&cat=500&page=1

http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/photos/showphoto.php?photo=828&sort=1&cat=500&page=1


gelan you are one lucky mofo!

[carfreak85]

Its been a long time since this has been updated, so I figure I'll drop some news. QS's original engine has been removed and is about to be rebuilt. The spare engine that we have (The one with roller rockers) is being rebuilt too. Unfortunatly, I've been temporarily bumped from this project, but I'll do my best to make sure the guys working on the engines do a good job.

[Jack in Norfolk]

I realize I am a bit late learning about Quattro San. I remember the Cannonball Run Sube that Jackie Chan drove. I also remember some talk of it on this board. I had no idea that Sube gave the car to a school in Washington to work on. I read the whole thread and I am fascinated. Regretably I can't find any pics from the links supplied. Could somone point me in the right direction?
Also, why is the car named Quattro San?
Carfreak- did you ever scan any of the articles?
Thanks fo filling me in on this awesome, historical Sube!
-Jack

[Ross]

Also, why is the car named Quattro San?

translation: Mr 4 (i think)

[baccaruda]

we should stalk Jackie Chan and find out if/when he'll be in Seattle.. it would be awesome to get some pictures of him with the refurbished car!

[Jack in Norfolk]

Do you guys know where i can check out the pics????? I feel like a moron but i couldn't find any pics in the albumns that the links lead to and I am dying to see this thing.
Thanks,
-Jack

[carfreak85]

I feel like a moron but i couldn't find any pics in the albumns that the links lead to and I am dying to see this thing.
Thanks,
-Jack

Sorry, thats my bad. That was my album and it got deleted, but I can't edit that post, so I have remained silent until now! I have BIG NEWS! GREAT NEWS!!! QUATTRO SAN RUNS!!! Yes it is true! Despite the huge clouds of smoke billowing from the tailpipe and the puddles of oil that follow in its wake, QSan is operational and driveable! While I still need to find exactly where the oil leak is coming from, I'm pretty sure the turbo oil seals are the cause of the smoke. I'll keep the updates coming as well as new pics for those who want them, but until then here are all the old pictures I have of Quattro San. By the way, the car is called Quattro san because the project was an attempt to build a poor man's Audi Quattro which was the pinicle of 4WD performance at the time. Oh, and another thing, THIS IS NOT THE CAR FROM THE MOVIE!!! At some point that car was at Western too. How do I know this? Because there is a picture with our good ole Dr. Seal! (Notice the BRAT in the background). See picture below of Jackie Chan's Cannonball Run hatchback:



The rest of the photos of Quattro San and of mystery WWU subaru stuff can be found here: http://www.ultimates...user=18&cat=500

Any questions?

[baccaruda]

whoops.

well, what's going on with the jackie chan car then?

[carfreak85]

whoops.

well, what's going on with the jackie chan car then?

You know, I have no idea... Time for a little research

[Jack in Norfolk]

WOW! So many questions.....
Quattro San is awesome! What is that joystick?
http://www.ultimates...00&page=1(tried to posts pic here, didn't work? Mods?)
Also as for quattro san, what's the story on that trunk spoiler? And the sunroof, is that a ragtop? Where those two items available from the dealer or an aftermarket source; does anyone else have them?
And finally, what's the story on the brat with the huge hood scoop; do tell!!

[carfreak85]

The joystick is the fader for the stereo. The spoiler was a peice that was avalible for most hatchbacks in the 80's. The sunroof is a ragtop, but in its condition, we don't dare open it. Its aftermarket as well. I have zero info on that brat, sorry.

[Jack in Norfolk]

Was the ragtop somthing that was produced and sold in any volume in the aftermarket or was it unique to the QS car?

[carfreak85]

It came from a volume manufacturer. I know they still make this kind of thing, but having it installed might cost more than your car is worth.

[Jack in Norfolk]

It came from a volume manufacturer. I know they still make this kind of thing, but having it installed might cost more than your car is worth.

What about the rear spoiler? was this part of a kit that was included w/ the front air dam? Was it available for sale by an aftermarket company or was it specially made for the QS?

[bajavwnsoobnut]

you know what that brat with the orange stuff attached to it looks like the brat that was owned by one of the co-founders of SOA (forget his name but it's not Bricklin)

[Jack in Norfolk]

you know what that brat with the orange stuff attached to it looks like the brat that was owned by one of the co-founders of SOA (forget his name but it's not Bricklin)

I don't know anything about that brat either. Have you got any more info or pics?

[Loyale 2.7 Turbo]

its Time to Bring this Thread Back from the Graveyard...

I Have information & Pictures Posted in This Thread: (Click Here) about the Development of the EA81D (Diesel) and the EJ Engines in the Washington University, Starting in my Post Nº 170, 174, then more info on post Nº 359 (Page 36) also I Posted This Link http://vri.etec.wwu.edu/

In Post Nº 341 I Posted This Picture of the First EJ Engine Prototype, seems to be like an EA81 with Overhead Cams and Timing Belt Drive... like the one Described back in this Thread:

Look at the Fuel injectors' place

interesting, isn't it?

But before that, in Post Nº 212 (Page 22) I posted Pictures of the "Subaru Estremo" (exreme, in italian) Prototype from Year 1987

and its Engine:

...So Subaru even had the New Logo in the Eighties...

Nice Subie! ... isn't it?

People at the Vehicle Research Institute Said that they Ran a Prototype named the "Viking V" with the Subaru EA81D Diesel Engine, also they Developed the first EJ Engine...

But About the "Quattro San" I Feel...

I realize I am a bit late learning about Quattro San.

I remember the Cannonball Run Sube that Jackie Chan drove. I also remember some talk of it on this board. I had no idea that Sube gave the car to a school in Washington to work on. I read the whole thread and I am fascinated. Regretably I can't find any pics from the links supplied. Could someone point me in the right direction?

Also, why is the car named Quattro San?

Carfreak- did you ever scan any of the articles?

Thanks fo filling me in on this awesome, historical Subie!
-Jack

...Exactly the Same: I can't find any pics from the links supplied.

It will be Awesome to see the Pictures and the Scans...

Now I Know, by Readin' this thread, that the "Quattro San" (or "Mr. 4" in English) is Not the same Subie that Jackie Chan Drove in the 1982 Movie "Cannonball Run" but it was there too...

Could Anyone Upload the Missin' Pictures of this Thread? ... Please?

There are any News about the "Quattro San"?

Kind Regards.

[LeoneTurbo]

Great stuff... But that 4-cyl engine is not the Estremo's, that was a H6! I have the original concept catalogue

[Loyale 2.7 Turbo]

I've Heard that they had the Concept of the ER27 engine there too, that H6 was in Newer Versions of the Concept Estremo, as Far as I Know...

Could you Scan & Post the Original Cocept Catalogue? ... it will be Great to See!

Kind Regards.

[LeoneTurbo]

I will see if I can find it and scan it at work next week, sure no problem.

But that red Estremo (there also was a white version, same car just different color) clearly shows the H6 turbo engine (2L, 250 PS) with air to water intercoolers above each head.

[Loyale 2.7 Turbo]

Yes, You're Right... Maybe the other Engine came in the White Ptototype?



I Found the Pics on a Japanese Website, and I Don't Understand Japanese...