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Should I part it out or spend some $ ?
Posted 29 October 2004 - 09:20 AM
Posted 29 October 2004 - 10:01 AM
Posted 29 October 2004 - 11:30 AM
I know where you are coming from, but sometimes a car is just too far gone, and you just have to accept it.
You may feel better about "retiring" your old car if you get another Subie and strip your old one down for spare parts. By recycling, your old Sube will still live on - in spirit if nothing else.
It's also ridiculously inexpensive, over time, to transfer good parts among several cars of the same model. Subes are perfect if your goal is rock-bottom transportation costs.
good luck, John
Posted 29 October 2004 - 11:38 AM
... Frame rails where they curve up underneath at front suspension have major rust holes...
Being on the wrong side of the country may slant my opinion on this item, but it struck me the most while reading. For me, this is a deal killer.
I also have empathy for what you are feeling. I bought a car SPECIFICALLY for parts, and am having trouble stripping it. ("It only needs this... and that... and...") In the end, it would cost far more than its market value, and it has parts to keep 3-4 cars in my stable running.
Good luck with your decision.
Posted 29 October 2004 - 11:53 AM
Why does it need a new alternator? If you are like me, you want it replaced just because its old. I did mine at 200K for about $88 before a 1500 mile trip, but it wasn't showing any signs of needing it.
I understand the strange affection that may convince you to spend a few bucks more than the car is 'worth' (what a willing buyer will pay to a willing seller), but doesn't take into account the value of the invested time and knowledge of the repair history of the machine. I have yet to see a Subaru die so I have no experience about when to make that decision. My first Sub is like yours but 3 years younger. It has been taking more encouragement to keep running lately, so rather than dumping it I bought another Subaru.
What I would do is: Get the seals done so its not an oil spreader. Get the exhaust holes patched so it doesn't stink. Attach a CO detector to your visor. Run it until it dies a definitive death.
What's up with Virginia inspection? Did you recently buy the car or is this an annual thing? Maryland has frequent exhaust emissions testing (and fortunately doesn't care about other emissions prone to Sub's).
My wife has a brother that lives in Manassas that we visit here and there (90 min for me). If you part out your creampuff let me know.
Posted 29 October 2004 - 12:53 PM
"This is my car. There are many like it, but this one is mine!" Well...sort of like that. My cars aren't worth much to someone else, but they are worth PLENTY to me. Now, in the case of your car, you're looking at about $1000 to get it all fixed up, unless you pay someone else to do it in which case you're probably looking at something closer to $3k. Having spent that $1-3k, you will have a car that will last a LOOOOOOOONG time to come.
The other option is to take that $1-3k and buy another car. However, 3 large isn't much of a down payment on a new car and a $3000 car is still a bit of a beater. Since there is a REASON why someone is selling that car, and you won't know what it is until after the ink is dry, you would be inheriting someone elses problems. If, on the other hand, you put that money into a down payment on something newer, you'd then be looking at between $100 and $300 per month in car notes. Now I don't know about you, but there is a HELL of a lot of fixing and modding that I can do on $1-300 per month.
No, my personal preference is to turn my own wrenches. Not particularly good at it, but I do enjoy it. I also tend to buy a car and run it until the wheels fall off (sometimes literally). If you don't enjoy turning wrenches, then maybe a newer car is the way to go for you.
Posted 29 October 2004 - 12:55 PM
I understand the strange affection that may convince you to spend a few bucks more than the car is 'worth' (what a willing buyer will pay to a willing seller), but doesn't take into account the value of the invested time and knowledge of the repair history of the machine.
"Knowledge of the repair history" should be a big part of your final decision. If you do decide to get another Sube, you should learn as much as possible about that car too. If you decide to stick with the EA82 platform, you'll be able to piece together a very reliable vehicle if you save your old parts. Other than the uniboby, it sounds like a decent car mechanically.
good luck, John
Posted 29 October 2004 - 01:16 PM
I also have empathy for what you are feeling. I bought a car SPECIFICALLY for parts, and am having trouble stripping it. ("It only needs this... and that... and...")
I've been there many times, a real car lover wants to save them all. But remember a part out is a more noble end to an old friend than rotting in a field or the crusher... organ donors live on.
And like NorthWet said... the frame rust is a deal breaker.
Posted 29 October 2004 - 01:27 PM
On the Devil's Advocate side, major rust isn't a fact of life near me. We don't salt our roads, and we get Nature's Car Wash enough to keep rust to a minimum. Rust might concern me more that it would you.
... And like NorthWet said... the frame rust is a deal breaker.
Moss... well, that is a different story. Constant battle for me.
Posted 29 October 2004 - 02:36 PM
Posted 29 October 2004 - 03:20 PM
I love my Loyale dearly..more than any other car even my other Subs. It will be a sad sad day when it is time to let Bucky go. I hope that he will be able to help someone else out when it happens like others have for me.That way I know Bucky will live on.
Posted 29 October 2004 - 07:41 PM
As for the engine re-seal,no sweat.Lots of us have done all out own re-seals and R&R pumps,belts,etc.....If you stop up during the week before 5PM I can get you dealer parts at my discount.No way do you need to spend a grand to keep you car going for a couple more years,trust me,it's my way of life.I know you could do that real easy,but between what I have and my discount you'll be tight and dry,er uhh,your engine will be anyways.
Posted 29 October 2004 - 07:54 PM
Sorry boys, but these cars have some serious defects in unibody construction (ducking!!). I have taked to body guys that swear up and down that Japanese steel is far inferior to US virgin steel. I can tell you from experience that US-built vehicles, including Japanese makes, hold up alot better than the ones shipped from Tokyo in terms of unibody integrity.
But if you can deal with the corrosion issues, these cars are damn near perfect otherwise. If you are committed to the EA82 design, you can keep a set of wheels going for next to nothing. Alot of people forget that these cars are built with high-quality components made by the big-time Japanese suppliers. Same ones that supply Toyota and Honda. These componenets are very reliable, and when paired with the Subaru motors,these cars can go for a long time with only minimal attention.
I don't feel bad anymore about scrapping out cars when they are at the end of the line. Yeah it sucks - but unibody deterioration is a losing battle. If you commit to the EA82 platform, and you are willing to build "new" cars as needed, your old Subie can live on as long as you want it to.
good luck, John
Posted 30 October 2004 - 02:38 AM
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