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14" Rim Idea I saw today.
Posted 22 October 2000 - 10:17 PM
I thought maybe he had himself a set of 6 lug rims, and just skipped a hole until I got myself a closer look.
Looks like he just used regular 6 lug Toyota rims, and drilled 2 new holes inbetween the holes already there. Why haven't we thought of this? Has anyone? Anyone done it yet? Whynot? Where can I find some old Toyota rims??
Where's my lift?? So many questions, so little time.
Posted 22 October 2000 - 10:23 PM
Will work for steels, but not alloys obviously.
I had thought about putting some 6 lug Chevy 4x4 white spokes on. They had 30.5" tires on them. I would have had to do some serious cutting. Still occcasionally crosses my mind to put them on my 80 brat...
Posted 22 October 2000 - 10:35 PM
Posted 22 October 2000 - 11:16 PM
FOr 4 redrilled rims?
Posted 23 October 2000 - 02:38 AM
I dont have the money to buy some Toyota rims to butcher either, but it would be cheaper and easier in my mind.
Posted 23 October 2000 - 08:39 AM
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Posted 23 October 2000 - 10:41 AM
Posted 23 October 2000 - 10:43 AM
For a do it your selfer, how do you pull those bolts out of the hub? you only use 2 of the existing ones right? and add 4 new ones? (to make a toyota 6 bolt pattern)
Posted 23 October 2000 - 10:55 AM
To install; attatch hub to wheel using exsisting 2 studs and tighten the lugnuts to hold it in place. Use a drill of comparable size to center mark the holes( Truer location)Then on a drill press(either yours or a machine shops)drill the holesMake sure the you stay a couplethousandths of an inch undersized so that the splines from the studs will have something to grab. You can have the studs pressed into place or you can use the lugnuts and some washers to pull them through. It's not that hard of a job. KISS(keep it simple stupid)This statement is not meant to offend just an acronym! Qman
Posted 23 October 2000 - 11:16 AM
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Posted 23 October 2000 - 01:37 PM
I hate how little things add up... I dont even want to really calculate how much little stuff added up to rebuilding my subaru. My wife would kill me Good thing i do the finaces, eh? (or is it? hehehehe)
Posted 23 October 2000 - 04:01 PM
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Posted 23 October 2000 - 08:56 PM
Earthguy2 correct me if i'm wrong but i recall countless number of posting that the people that were looking for pugs or had them either have trouble finding tires to fit there pugs or the washers lugs or some thing of that nature? mine all i do is go to the tire store and get 31x11.5's ta da it's done no special lugs/washers nothing.
Lindavid my off sets are deep dish they are 15x10's
subaru4wd i would much rather have 6 lugs holding on 70 pounds of tire than 4 lugs wouldn't you?
Bythesea i personaly would not weld to fill in the holes on either the rim or the hubs the hub your talking about 1/2 hole and 1/4 deep thats a lot of heat on that hub you could warping them? you will still have about 2 1/2 inches between holesand if you all are unsure like some one else posted above paproo has made the offer of a set of four for 200.00
Posted 23 October 2000 - 09:50 PM
Posted 23 October 2000 - 10:15 PM
Posted 23 October 2000 - 10:29 PM
I think redrilling the hubs is the way to go. Hassey's is the first I had seen done (on his site(s)).
I had trial fitted a set of 15"x6" steel pathfinder rims to my Brumby years ago (before I discovered the USMB) just to see if it would work. That is, I used a BFH to knock out 2 studs and fit them on the remaining 2 to allow a check for clearances. The tires were 215/75/15 which were too tall for my modest 50mm (2") lift.
The pathfinder rims have a 4.75" backspace which I wouldn't mind betting is more than toyota rims. As mentioned above, most if not all 4x4 rims are 6(stud)-by-5.5"PCD (pitch circle diameter). As 5.5" is 139.7mm it fits easily.
Not trying to show off, but I do have a degree in Mechanical Engineering and this is the approach I would take. I also agree with the comments re welding above, a big no-no.
Posted 24 October 2000 - 08:08 AM
Posted 24 October 2000 - 08:39 AM
Posted 24 October 2000 - 09:23 AM
Now that being done, how on earth do you suppose that we are going to recreate the raised hole and correct counterbore for the lugnut taper. The hub is hardened steel which if drilled with sharp drills at low speed, and a good quality cutting oil to reduce heat build up will not harm the hub. You don't have to take my word on it but does anyone remember the Chev Monza's or the Ford Pinto's that everyone was hot roddin' in the late 70's early 80's? The front hubs were redrill to match the wheel pattern of the rearaxles that had been swapped in for the posi's. It has been done for years and will continue to be done. I doubt any of you will be putting as big a tire on your rigs as Hassey has. So your stresses will be nowhere as great as his anyway. Remember K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Stupid) (Not meant to offend) We as humans tend to make things far more complicated than they need to be. It's a good idea to be cautious, but not to the point that you go in the wrong direction. Ken
Posted 24 October 2000 - 01:46 PM
And your right. None of us will be running monster tires like Hassey. I think this discussion has gone way farther than I expected it too. I'm just looking for a simple way to add 14" rims to my car, without going into great detail and complication. The advantage to re-drilling the rims are you dont have to jepordise your hubs in any way. And You can also use stock Subaru rims if needed.
I think for now, i will just stick with my new Mag's Ive purchased, along with some new tires.
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