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a better clutch cable!?


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#1 shanonsf

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 07:11 PM

hey all-

curious if anyone on the board has an idea/knowledge of a 'better' clutch cable for an EA81??

I've just broken my 2nd in as many years, thankfully the tow was less than 2 miles back home....AAA good....
they have all snapped (pot metal) at the housing ferrel/washer stop behind the pedal. it's never the cable......?

just ordered a 'pair' from the dealer, obviously need to carry a spare....

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#2 chef_tim

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 07:39 PM

You've got to be sure they are put in right, I've broken one too but it was cocked a little. If you learn to shift with out the clutch it will save you a tow. Tim

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 08:39 PM

If there is anything on all my subaru's I would shoot the designer's for it would the clutch cable.

They SUCK. They always break in the same place everytime, right at the atachment point / clamp assembly under the dash.

I have owned 10+ brats over the years and everyone has blown a cable. Although I have had better luck with Subaru cables (vice shucks or some other aftermarket oem). But sadly even the Subaru ones go eventually.

I carry a spare. They are a very easy roadside repair, unless it is raining, then it sucks even worse!

I don't know any tricks to make them last longer. Mine have all semed to go at different times, theres no standard time frame.

All I can say is use Subaru, and have a spare. Oh yah, Tim is right, you can crashbox fairly well if you know your vehicle sounds. Going up seems fine, but I can only downshift to third without the clutch I can't seem to get down to second.

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#4 NV Zeno

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 09:52 PM

Hi Shan..

Have you replaced the clutch itself? I've been told that as the pressure plate springs wear and age, they get really stiff. The friction material may not be worn, but the springs may be. Considering where you live and drive, there's a lot of shifting (crashboxing's not that practical in SFO), and stop-and-go (on hills nonetheless:rolleyes: ), all putting pressure on the clutch cable.

Sounds like we need to put together another Wrench-Fest:brow: .

#5 Syrinx

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 10:04 PM

Haha Dave-
It's funny you mention
"(crashboxing's not that practical in SFO), and stop-and-go (on hills nonetheless:rolleyes: )"

One of my cable snaps was just after the Golden Gate headed N on 101 towards Santa Rosa! It was in my 81 Blue Brat and I was on my way to visit Grandma... anyway I had to finish the trip north 60 mi? W/ no cable.. synchro by ear baby! What sucked was going through downtown Santa Rosa with all those lights! I ende up staying overnight and catching the bus back to Frisco for work monday, then the next weekend I went up and changed the cable.

I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad it didn't happen in town!!!!!!!!! Holy crap I could only imagine..

I do agree though, it is a last resort. however if you know your vehicle you can do fairly well with little damage.

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 10:23 PM

Ok folks, thanx for the replies.That's what i was afraid of, they just suck, carry a spare. 10-4!
Zeno- clutch is good, replaced a couple months ago, even the Hill-holder works!
Pretty cool thing in SF! A wrenchfest could work after the holidays. We might have to do a snow run first! ha ha

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 10:36 PM

Kurt,

Funny you should mention downtown Santa Rosa...

A couple of years ago, on the Wednesday night before Thanksgiving, we were out "celebrating" at that Mexican restaurant (The Cantina?), came outside into the rain. When we arrived at the Cantina, I couldn't shut the engine off with the key (stuck ON). Stalled the engine, disco'd the battery, went inside. Upon leaving, we pushed the car to start it, the cable snapped (in the usual way, same as y'all). Remember, we're on a 4-day-weekend's eve..ran a few lights, got to my "bud with lots-o-tools"'s place on the westside (Fulton Rd.). Good luck getting parts, my car was stranded there until Monday afternoon. After some fast talking and a little luck, "Lots-o-Tools" let me borrow his POS BMW (..And I do mean POS!!) so I could get back (my then) home to Pleasanton, and back to work..he delivered my car to me, couldn't stand to be another day away from that POS of his..good riddance, it was embarrassing to drive it to work!

Terrible luck..A DOUBLE failure (ig. switch and C-cable), on the night before a major holiday weekend,downtown, in the rain..ugh!

Replaced both with new Genuine Subaru parts, no problems since:cool: .

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 10:43 PM

Mine always broke at the clutch fork.

Since I found out how they are supposed to be installed...I've never had issues. I should knock on some wood now! :drunk:

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 10:46 PM

Ok folks, thanx for the replies.That's what i was afraid of, they just suck, carry a spare. 10-4!
Zeno- clutch is good, replaced a couple months ago, even the Hill-holder works!
Pretty cool thing in SF! A wrenchfest could work after the holidays. We might have to do a snow run first! ha ha

-shanon

Gotcha Shan, we'll keep Junkie and the Reno/Tahoe guys in the loop for a snow run..maybe we can even coax Mike "Turbosoob" into joining us:) !

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 10:52 PM

The bracket in the pedal box seems to make this problem worse by not holding the bracket tightly enough. This is the case in my subaru, im not sure if the brackets are always crap or if mine had been damaged previosly. I ended up welding up a new bracket, that holds the cable much tighter, so it cannot move. This seems to have drastically increased the life of hte cable.

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Posted 29 November 2004 - 11:21 PM

and my left leg gets a workout with a horrid rrrrrrrrrrreeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak
it's the stupid 83 1/2+ system of holding the cable in place
and to make matters worse, I have no idea if I am running a worn out ea82 pp and a 2wd ea82 clutch disk for the ea81 engine and ea82 d/r which slips at full throttle secondaries or hard starting :banghead:

no broken cables, yet, kow

#12 Russ Hill

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Posted 30 November 2004 - 01:32 AM

Hmm,
The cable in my '83 went 208,000 miles. It still didn't break, I replaced it because it was getting stiff.

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Posted 04 December 2004 - 08:47 PM

ALWAYS carry a spare..............of course I learned the hard way ,when mine went in a driving snow storm (of course the only one we had last winter) and I had the luxury of walking the 3 miles back into town............blew the only chance of having fun in the snow out here!!!!!!

#14 Mendodave

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Posted 06 December 2004 - 07:30 PM

Yeah! It is not just me!

I keep a spare...but I think I was installing it wrong. Let me know about the snow too, dudes!

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Posted 06 December 2004 - 10:33 PM

Well, it snowed here Thanksgiving weekend, and it's been so cold here that the snow really hasn't melted..it's just been frozen, slightly thawed then frozen again. Has the consistency of concrete. The wind has picked up in the last few minutes, must be the storm with lots-o-snow that's expected :grin: :grin:.

#16 Mendodave

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Posted 06 December 2004 - 10:44 PM

Dave,

We are getting hammered here in Mendo, we got high wind, we got lotsa rain, we got debris, and we still got power!

i drove home in 4wd the wind is so bad. tree parts are everywhere on my road. time to pack the chainsaw

yeeeeeeHA

let me know when you have some fun snow to romp in. that frozen crap sucks

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