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Broken Timing Belt Idler, what to do.....
Posted 05 December 2004 - 03:09 PM
For a second winter car, I picked up a 1996 Subary Legacy 2.2, AWD Wagon. The car has 180,000 miles on it. I paid $500 for the car. It has new tires, one owner, and is VERY well maintaned. When I got it, it was due for a timing belt and it needed a clutch. I replaced both. After about a week of driving everything seemed fine on the car until last night. I was driving around when I heard a clunk and the motor stopped running.
I had a suspusion that it was the timing belt that I had just replaced, so I had it towed home and I took the timing cover off to discover that in fact the timimg belt was off, due to a missing pulley! Thats right, my geared idler pulley broke right out of the drivers side head! I am very mehcanically inclined, when I installed the timing belt, I was very careful to follow all the procedures in the Haynes manual to the letter.
You can see all the pictures of the damage here
I have almost $1000 invested in this car, between purchasing it, the clutch, timing belt, and tax/title/registration. This car was supposed to be a cheap winter car, its not going that way so far.
It looks like that to remove the heads on this car, the engine needs to be removed. I feel that I am capable of this. I have found these heads on eBay, I am not sure that this is a good deal though......... And I also need to see what he'll charge without a core, since one of my heads is F'ed.
Ebay Subaru Heads
The motor was in great running condition, so I think I would be fine with just new heads, but then a part of me figures if I have the engine out, why not get a better/newer one to put in......... (Or a WRX motor, I love swaps, but it is and needs to be a winter car)
My last option is to sell the car as is. I don't know that I would get all my money back, but maybe I can and should cut my losses.........
You guys seem like a knowledgable bunch and your input would be greatly appreciated.
Posted 05 December 2004 - 04:13 PM
I have seen some engine carnage in my day but that is bad. If I had some cash and you lived near me I would buy it off you.
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Another thing I completly forgot to mention, what are the chances that the valves were damaged in the process? I was just pushing in the clutch at the time to shift into a lower gear, I would guess that the engine was at about 2k rpm, I didn't hear any weird noises, with the exception of the initial 'pop"
You're lucky. 2.2L engines are non interference.
Posted 05 December 2004 - 09:23 PM
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Posted 05 December 2004 - 11:04 PM
It is a non interference engine , so if the belt breaks or the idler lets go , no damage will occur at the valves
Stick the new parts in and if it's assembled correctly everything should last another 100k
Posted 05 December 2004 - 11:06 PM
Posted 05 December 2004 - 11:50 PM
Thanks for all the help. I will make sure that I post this thread on my website, NewEnglandCustoms.com and put a big shout out to all you guys for the help!
Another quick question, I am assuming that the water pump does NOT come with that idler pulley? that must be a Subaru Dealer only item?
Thanks for all the help!
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