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#1 gpatmac

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 02:26 AM

I've just purchased a '90 Loyale for $75 and it looks like it's worth every penny.

Anyhow, for the time being, it appears as though there's relatively little wrong beyond some rust and an almost worn-to-the-metal clutch.

I have almost all of the parts from my WRX, except for the front and rear differentials.

That is to say, I've swapped almost everything out of my WRX wagon and most everything is sitting in my shed and garage. I have an EJ20 complete with either a td04 or a vf30 turbo, the transmission case (the gears are a little bit chewed up and not in the case right now), the TMIC or a larger PWR TMIC, driveshaft, clutch and flywheel, lateral links, endlinks...

I figure I should be able to find an inexpensive WRX transmission, or maybe I'll save up for an STi gearset.

If I were to utilize the stock Loyale (EA81, right?) transmission, does anyone know of any durability/compatibility issues?

Conceptually I understand the difference between a transaxle and a transfer case, but mechanically I don't. Anyone know of any compatibility issues with leaving the front transaxle in place, and is the rear gearbox essentially the same as an Impreza?

I should be able to find some struts and springs fairly cheap. I may just go with some Koni's, though.

Anything else of value to add or discuss?

Thanks, (phew. Knocked that 1st post out, didn't I?):)

#2 sportsterbrat

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 02:44 AM

Hi you have a ea82 you will need a adapter plate to bolt a ej engine to a ea trans . something I am studying myself Mudrat does make a kit Charlie

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 02:45 AM

Oh and WELCOME this place is great!!

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 05:13 AM

Welcome to the board!

Well, as has already been mentioned, you will need an adapter plate to mate an EJ (WRX) engine with an EA (Loyale) transmission. Really, though, I think you'd be happier swapping in an EJ tranny while you're at it. Mechanically, the difference between AWD and 4WD, between transfer case and center diff (or transaxle), is that a transfer case does not allow any slip between the two outputs. So, if you run your Loyale in 4wd on dry pavement, you'll soon start breaking things, most likely DOJ cups. Adding a significant amount of power, in the form of an EJ engine, will just make the problem worse.

The unfortunate thing is that (I think) the Impreza tranny's have 4.111 gears whereas your Loyale has 3.90 gears. You'd need to either swap rear ends or transplant impreza gears into your Loyale pumpkin. I think a rearend swap would be easier.

Should be fun. Good luck!

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 07:03 AM

that sounds like a really great sleeper. you might have a lot of fun with it if you run it with an off colored fender and 1 hubcap missing, maybe an "I Love My Cat" bumper sticker.. make it the most unassuming sleeper ever and smoke people. .

you might check into KYB struts too. good luck with your project.

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 01:26 PM

Thank you all very much.

Don't expect me to be making progress quickly as my first priority is to get my WRX back on the road. Well actually, I need to get the clutch in the Loyale to where it's healthy, first, and then work on the WRX and then I can begin on the Loyale wrt performance. [/ramble]

I'll continue to post anything I do, though.

I'm with you on the transfer vs transaxle and front and rear differentials vs part-time 4wd. I can see where there'd be inherent weaknesses. I'd like to be able to launch it.;)

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 03:05 PM

Nice project and a WRX? Luck guy

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 03:50 PM

The WRX wagon I've got is essentially an STi.;)

EJ257 block (which I'm comtemplating putting into this Loyale, instead. Maybe, maybe not.) Currently WRX heads, but I have some v7 Jap STi heads on my bench. Jap v7 STi w/o DCCD 6mt. FP Green Turbo. Stoptech front BBK. Tein Flex. Whiteline rear swaybar, lateral links, and anti-lift kit.

You know, a logical question I should have asked y'all about the loyale...I did everything in building up my WRX, but how much of a greater task will it be to get the Loyale to the point where it's satisfactory? I don't have any need for it to look good at all. I just want it to have some impressive, usable power; handle well (DEFEAT THE UNDERSTEER MONSTER!!!) at high speeds, and brake on a dime.

One of the biggest things I'm impressed with is that stock, a Loyale's curbweight is 2400lbs.:eek: A little bit of adding weight with the addition of stronger parts, and deleting weight with my sawsall and maybe a torch. I'm hoping to have something extreme without actually being...extreme, if you get what I mean.

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 06:06 PM

do a search for heim joints for the loyale in the search box on the forums page. Should help handling.

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 07:23 PM

Speaking of sleepers...

My 90 legacy is a real sleeper. When I step on the gas it acts like it is sleeping and just never really seems to wake up. I think a turbo would wake it up.

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Posted 13 December 2004 - 10:59 AM

First thing that comes to my mind is a stock EA82 clutch wont hold when you get on throttle good. Prolly need to look into a better clutch.




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