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Car smokes on left hand on ramps.


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#1 heep70

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 05:08 PM

My 86 wagon smokes on right hand on ramps, but not left hand turns. For you folks that are familiar with Washington, it is the on ramp off of west bound 18 onto south bound 167. Right when I hit 167 and trying to get some speed it starts spewing THICK smoke out the tail pipe. That is the only turn it does it on. The carbed 1.8 only has 120,000 miles on it and does not hardly use any oil.

Anyone know what the problem is?

#2 hooziewhatsit

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 05:12 PM

It may have something to do with your PCV valve. I recall there was a problem with them and sharp right hand turns. I'll see what I can find...

Edit: http://www.ultimates....php/t-712.html

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 05:21 PM

YaY Bonney Lake!!!! Actually I'm from Burlington.. near Mt.Vernon. I live in Colville now (70 miles north of Spokane). Ya know replace the PCV valve is a good idea. I do have a question for you though... First this is an EA82? and have you tried going straight uphill (with no turns on a steep grade) to see if it is still smoking? Do you smell oil burning when you get out of the car or notice any smoke from under the hood? Oil dripping on the Y connector can cause that. let us know....... Boing

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 05:43 PM

The smoke on turns is a somewhat common problen caused by the PCV.. subaru released a TSB for this in 91 or so. They also released a redesigned pcv setup I hear

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 11:04 PM

subaru released a TSB for this in 91 or so. They also released a redesigned pcv setup I hear


I think the above is why a lot of people on the board highly suggest using only Subaru PCV valves.

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 11:36 PM

The TSB is for SPFI cars.

I second the OEM PCV replacement. My Bro-in-laws '86 just started doing the same thing. Told him the same thing.

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#7 heep70

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Posted 07 January 2005 - 08:32 PM

HHHMMMMM. I hear what you folks are saying and agree with the PCV issue. But this is a right hand turn and PCV is on the left side of the engine, so if I do a right turn all the oil should be pulled to the left side of the car towards the PCV. I could totally understand if the PCV was on the right side or I was making a left turn.

I will have some extra time Saturday morning to fiddle with it.

I just noticed the title of my thread reads "left turn" I ment my other left. Sorry.

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Posted 07 January 2005 - 09:17 PM

sorry Greg the problem

has nothing to do with the PVC location

it's all about the cam cover on the outside of the engine on the turn.

The breather ingests the oil and it is sucked into the intake

manifold - burned - and the plume of smoke is the result.

Maybe you could mimic the fix Subaru came up with

but

Please be aware if you create excess crankcase pressure

you risk the chance of blowing the cam and other seals out.

#9 heep70

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Posted 07 January 2005 - 09:34 PM

Yea, I agree. I just wanted to pry just a bit deeper to make sure. Thanks.


I will fart around with it tommorrow. I am not to embarrased when it happens, I just don't want to wreck from laughing so hard at the people behind me. :lol:

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Posted 08 January 2005 - 12:22 AM

Get a Subaru PCV valve.

My car many years ago had a fram unit.. smoked like crazy on right turns.

Changed to a Subaru valve, NO smoke now! No other changes performed on car.

#11 heep70

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Posted 08 January 2005 - 11:36 AM

I take it that the Subaru PCV is different. I will pick one up Tuesday. :banana:

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Posted 08 January 2005 - 07:28 PM

Dealer sells a kit (might have to order it though) which replaces and modifies the pcv system. As I recall it was about $25. Moosens gave me an old pcv valve that I installed and never paid any more attention to my "James Bond" getaway feature.

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Posted 08 January 2005 - 07:54 PM

What is the update dealt with in the TSB, and what years of cars was it for?

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Posted 08 January 2005 - 10:50 PM

I think the retrofit was for cars 87 and up (being that SOME 87's had SPFI) I belive some loyales came from the factory with the kit.

If you have blue fittings in the PCV system I belive that is the way to indicate that you DO have the kit.




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